On Wednesday 13 June 2018 01:52:16 Mike Bird wrote: > On Wed June 13 2018 01:41:34 William Morder wrote: > > But when I look at network configuration in other places (for instance, > > in Trinity Control Center), no network connections at all are supposed to > > be enabled. > > Hi Bill, > > I would ask you please to make your posts here as precise as possible, > such that other people have enough information to perform the same steps > as you have performed and to compare their results with yours. > > Are you saying that Trinity Control Center / Peripherals / Information / > / Network Interfaces shows no interfaces, not even lo? > > What please is your "uptime", "cat /proc/version", "lsof /sbin/udevd", > and "ps ax | grep dbus"? > > --Mike > Sorry to take so long to respond. I tried to take a screenshot to show you what I meant, then my system crashed and I could not boot up again. When I tried to reinstall my system, I kept having problems, so I finally migrated over to Devuan Jessie/Beowulf (I believe it's called). Now my system is back to normal again, only better (I hope). Brief answer: You are correct, when I looked in Trinity Control Center / Peripherals / Information / Network Interfaces I saw nothing at all there, not even lo. The same is true when I looked in Trinity Control Center / Internet & Network / Network Settings It was the same, no matter if I was user or root. I think the problem was just that I was tired of installing and reinstalling, and futzing round with trying to get my system working, when I already had a "finely tuned system" (to quote somebody else here); so maybe I skipped some steps in my haste. When I sent that last post to the mailing list, my system was unstable, and about to crash. I was only upgrading to Debian Jessie then on to Devuan Ascii, because I read that security.debian.org servers will no longer support Jessie. Now that I am running Devuan Jessie/Beowulf (?), I don't know if that is still true (that as of today, 17th of June, security patches for Jessie will not be supported). At least Devuan seems to run smoother than Debian. I believe that hereafter I will confine my learning experiments to my laptop, and save my desktop for actual work. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting