On Thursday 25 of July 2019 17:13:23 Mike Bird wrote: > TDE Devs, > > I hesitate to send this to a do-ocracy when I don't have the time > to do it myself but I think this warrants a ping. > > I rate myself as a software engineer with an excellent track record > in (proprietary) database managers, AI, and systems software. I've > designed software, lead software teams, and picked up other's failing > projects and literally worked and slept in my office to ship on time. > > But I would never have thought that what Tim did was possible. The > solo fork and improvement of TDE was a massive undertaking in which > Tim succeeded brilliantly. Whether or not Tim ever touches TDE again > I have an enormous respect for his courage, talent, and achievement. > > But now others have taken up the mantle. > > The original TDE infrastructure has been broken in various ways > for a long time. The stable mirrors have been unable to update > for eight months. The trinitydesktop.org domain expires in March > and there is no guarantee that the original TDE infrastucture will > continue to stumble along even that long. > > TDE 14.0.7 is currently in PSB. Waiting for 14.0.8 might be too > late. I would like to see TDE 14.0.7, either when it goes stable > or soon thereafter, on community-managed infrastructure. > > --Mike > Hi all, I will try to summarize information on what resources we have now, what is the current status and what are the plans that we have. Although I will try to be brief, the mail will be a bit long... 1. Primary site Here are a number of services that are mostly on shared machines where only Tim can manage it and cannot give access to other admins. + web server + mailing lists + wiki + bugzilla + git repositories - SCM, CGIT + automated scripts for master branch + crashreports store + patchwork + quickbuild + archive for mirrors 2. VPS donated by vpsFree.org This VPS initially provided the mirror function for the GIT repositories and at the same time has the role of a highly optimized primary redirector for accessing the package archive. Currently, TDE Gitea Workspace (TGW) and TDE Weblate Translation Workspace (TWTW) are hosted on this VPS. As a result, VPS is now the main place where developers and other contributors work. This allows us to work on development independently on the primary site. Git repositories is now not just a mirror, but is bi-directionally synchronized with the primary site. Another thing is that a Preliminary Stable Builds (PSB) repository has existed for a long time and later a Preliminary Testing Builds (PTB) repository was created. These Debian / Devuan / Raspbian / Ubuntu repositories provide preliminery packages for stable branch as well as packages for master branch => equivalent of nightly-builds. These packages are built on builders I have in my management, completely independent of QuickBuild. These repositories are now provided primarily on this VPS. For this VPS we don't have to worry about hardware => it provides vpsFree.org. To manage system on VPS and the services we have here, it's me and Michele who can manage it. And here is no problem to add other administrators. + git repositories - CGIT + TGW - a tool for developers collaboration and manage issues + TWTW - a tool to work on translations + automated scripts for all branches + primary redirector to access the archive 3. Dedicated TDE Box donated by Integricloud Integricloud, a company associated with Tim, has provided us a dedicated hardward box on the POWER9 platform. This is a machine with very good performance. Because it's dedicated hardware, Tim, I and Michele can manage the virtual machines and services on this box. And here is no problem to add other administrators. Here is the plan that services from the primary site will be migrated to the virtual machines on this box. We are currently preparing virtual machines on this box. However, for the migration plan and migration work we will again need participation from Tim, who has been busy for a long time. And unfortunately for some time again is not contact with him. 4. Plans for the future Because problems on the primary site combined with Tim's unavailability are not here for the first time, we have been working for a long time to setup alternative services to minimize dependence on the primary site. Currently we are ready to be independent on the primary site for services: + web server + mailing lists + git repositories - CGIT, TGW, TWTW + automated scripts for all branches + repository and builders - PSB, PTB + archive for mirrors - reorganized structure, cleaning done, added missing things, for example source tarballs for R14.0.6 are here Thanks to the TDE box donated by Integricloud and VPS donated by vpsFree.org, we currently have good resources to provide services availability. What needs to be solved is to prepare a migration plan and then migrate the services. I propose that we can gradually discuss individual services to be migrated here and prepare a migration plan. Cheers -- Slávek
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