Re: Journal message timestamps

["Kevin P. Fleming" <kevin@xxxxxxx>]

I've run into similar issues and resorted to adding battery-backed
RTCs to my RPis in order to ensure that the kernel's clock would be
set to something 'reasonable' very early in the boot process (although
it's still not ideal since the RTC drivers are loaded as modules so
the kernel's code for doing this can't read them... it has to be done
in userspace very early).

Given the low cost of RTC chips and supercaps to power them, the fact
that RPis still don't include a hardware RTC in their fourth
generation is a major failing. In spite of that the boards are quite
useful.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 6:00 PM Lennart Poettering
<lennart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fr, 04.09.20 22:02, Dave Howorth (systemd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote:
>
> > > (btw, systemd-timesyncd does what fake-hwclock does automatically, and
> > > also does SNTP. it should be fine for most usecases, no need to resort
> > > to fake-hwclock)
> > >
> > > Lennart
> >
> > This is a serious problem for anybody running a raspberry pi (i.e.
> > many, many thousands of people.) I suggest buying one for yourself and
> > actually experiencing the issues to understand what the problem is and
> > why people would like to see a solution.
>
> I understand the problem, and would be happy to review/merge a patch
> that addresses this cleanly.
>
> I had some raspberry pis, but I gave them away, since I never found a
> use for them.
>
> > I'll send you the dollars if that's really a problem.
>
> It's not a money problem. Raspberry pis are simply not at the center
> of my personal attention. But there are many other engineers in this
> world, maybe you can find one that shares your priorities on this and
> he will fix it for you. I am not going to be that, but at least I can
> offer to review the patches and merge them if they are good.
>
> Lennart
>
> --
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