+ Rafael for advice on runtime_pm corner cases. On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 10:48 PM Ben Chuang <benchuanggli@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > My concern is that when runtime_pm is false, gl9763e is disabled LPM > negotiation, gl9763e can't enter L1.x and s0ix may fail. > It seems that runtime_pm will always exist and that's ok. > Thank you. I believe we can address your concern. - XXX_suspend/XXX_resume (i.e. classic suspend/resume) depends on CONFIG_PM_SLEEP. This always selects CONFIG_PM. This always includes the runtime_pm framework. So, if XXX_suspend/XXX_resume gets called, the runtime_pm framework is always present, but may not be actively managing the device. - "when runtime_pm is false" AFAIK the only way to disable runtime_pm when CONFIG_PM is set, is to write "on" to /sys/devices/.../power/control. See https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-devices-power In that case, the runtime_pm framework will activate the device, calling XXX_runtime_resume() if necessary. Are there other ways of disabling it? - if /sys/devices/.../power/control is "on", then: gl9763e_runtime_resume() always called -> LPM always disabled gl9763e_suspend() -> LPM enabled -> gl9763e_resume() -> LPM disabled In between "classic" XXX_suspend and XXX_resume, LPM will be enabled, so the device can enter L1.x and S0ix. And the LPM negotiation flags look correct. Does that address your concerns?