Re: stable-rc/linux-4.14.y bisection: baseline.login on meson8b-odroidc1

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On 19.06.23 13:53, Ricardo Cañuelo wrote:
> On lun, jun 19 2023 at 11:36:02, "Linux regression tracking (Thorsten Leemhuis)" <regressions@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> BTW and JFYI (as you earlier said my docs helped you): the aspect "who
>> is responsible to handle this regression: the regular maintainer or the
>> stable team?" that came up earlier with this report lead me to sit down
>> and write a text called "Why your Linux kernel bug report might be
>> ignored or is fruitless" I published here:
>>
>> https://linux-regtracking.leemhuis.info/post/frequent-reasons-why-linux-kernel-bug-reports-are-ignored/
> 
> This is fantastic

Feels really good to hear this, as it was a lot of work that involved a
lot of rewriting...

Nevertheless: let me know, if there is something where you think "this
doesn't feel right", "this could be clearer", "I don't understand this",
or something like that.

> and a much needed document that should be mandatory
> training for anyone reporting kernel regressions.

Well, bugs in general I'd say.

> IMO this kind of
> documents should be located in a more prominent place

Yeah, but where? I wondered if I should ask Jonathan if this is
something for lwn.net, but something in me says it would be a odd fit.

> Maybe with a bit of effort of us all we can improve the
> situation so that bugs and regression reporting and tracking in the
> kernel becomes a much more streamlined process.

I'd really like to work more on that, but this regression tracking thing
is a time sink. And regzbot still needs quite a few improvements as
well. :-/

Would help if I finally would figure out how to use "git clone" to
create a clone or two of myself. ;)

>>> That leads to the question: should we spend our time on it?
>>
>> As expected there wasn't any progress (at least afaics).
>> [...]
>> Ricardo, how would do you and Kernelci folks feel about ignoring this?
> 
> I can't speak on behalf of the KernelCI people, but this being something
> that isn't failing in mainline and considering that the stable release
> where it happened was very close to EOL puts this in the low-priority
> category for me. Fixing bugs can become a quite expensive task in terms
> of time, and I'm try to factor in the impact of the fix to make sure the
> time spent fixing it is worth it.
> In other words, making test results green just for the sake of
> green-ness is not a sound reason to go after the failures. We're trying
> to improve the kernel quality after all, so I'd rather focus on the
> regressions that seem more important for the kernel integrity and for
> the users.

Well said. It's similar for regression tracking, hence let me remove it
from the list of tracked issues

#regzbot inconclusive: seems nobody is motivated enough to work on
resolving this issue found by KernelCI (see lists for details).

Ciao, Thorsten (wearing his 'the Linux kernel's regression tracker' hat)
--
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