On 07.12.21 16:56, Michal Hocko wrote: > On Tue 07-12-21 16:34:30, David Hildenbrand wrote: >> On 07.12.21 16:29, Michal Hocko wrote: >>> On Tue 07-12-21 16:09:39, David Hildenbrand wrote: >>>> On 07.12.21 14:23, Michal Hocko wrote: >>>>> On Tue 07-12-21 13:28:31, David Hildenbrand wrote: >>>>> [...] >>>>>> But maybe I am missing something important regarding online vs. offline >>>>>> nodes that your patch changes? >>>>> >>>>> I am relying on alloc_node_data setting the node online. But if we are >>>>> to change the call to arch_alloc_node_data then the patch needs to be >>>>> more involved. Here is what I have right now. If this happens to be the >>>>> right way then there is some additional work to sync up with the hotplug >>>>> code. >>>>> >>>>> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c >>>>> index c5952749ad40..a296e934ad2f 100644 >>>>> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c >>>>> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c >>>>> @@ -8032,8 +8032,23 @@ void __init free_area_init(unsigned long *max_zone_pfn) >>>>> /* Initialise every node */ >>>>> mminit_verify_pageflags_layout(); >>>>> setup_nr_node_ids(); >>>>> - for_each_online_node(nid) { >>>>> - pg_data_t *pgdat = NODE_DATA(nid); >>>>> + for_each_node(nid) { >>>>> + pg_data_t *pgdat; >>>>> + >>>>> + if (!node_online(nid)) { >>>>> + pr_warn("Node %d uninitialized by the platform. Please report with memory map.\n", nid); >>>>> + pgdat = arch_alloc_nodedata(nid); >>>>> + pgdat->per_cpu_nodestats = alloc_percpu(struct per_cpu_nodestat); >>>>> + arch_refresh_nodedata(nid, pgdat); >>>>> + node_set_online(nid); >>>> >>>> Setting all possible nodes online might result in quite some QE noice, >>>> because all these nodes will then be visible in the sysfs and >>>> try_offline_nodes() is essentially for the trash. >>> >>> I am not sure I follow. I believe sysfs will not get populate because I >>> do not call register_one_node. >> >> arch/x86/kernel/topology.c:topology_init() >> >> for_each_online_node(i) >> register_one_node(i); > > Right you are. > >>> You are right that try_offline_nodes will be reduce which is good imho. >>> More changes will be possible (hopefully to drop some ugly code) on top >>> of this change (or any other that achieves that there are no NULL pgdat >>> for possible nodes). >>> >> >> No to exposing actually offline nodes to user space via sysfs. > > Why is that a problem with the sysfs for non-populated nodes? > https://lore.kernel.org/linuxppc-dev/20200428093836.27190-1-srikar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/t/ Contains some points -- certainly nothing unfixable but it clearly shows that users expect only nodes with actual memory and cpus to be online -- that's why we export the possible+online state to user space. My point is to be careful with such drastic changes and do one step at a time. I think preallocation of the pgdat is a reasonable thing to have without changing user-space visible semantics or even in-kernel semantics. -- Thanks, David / dhildenb