On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:15:12AM -0700, John Villalovos wrote: > On 9/16/2020 10:08 AM, Greg KH wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 09:54:50AM -0700, John Villalovos wrote: > > > > > > On 9/15/2020 11:31 PM, Greg KH wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 02:30:34PM -0700, John L. Villalovos wrote: > > > > > Add support needed for the Renesas USB 3.0 controller > > > > > (PD720201/PD720202). Without these patches a system with this USB > > > > > controller will crash during boot. > > > > Is this a regression, or something that has always happened? If a > > > > regression, any pointers to what commit caused this? > > > > > > > > this really feels like a "new feature" addition to me, unless this used > > > > to work properly. > > > > > > It is not a regression. It is a crash that occurs on new hardware that has > > > this USB controller. > > > > > > > > > Without this patch series, hardware with this USB controller will fail to > > > work. So in the choice between "regression" and "new feature" I would say > > > "new feature". > > > > Ok, to support new hardware, use a newer kernel, no reason why 5.4 or > > newer will not work here, right? > > This is true, but some customers who want to use this hardware don't want > (refuse) to use a new kernel :( That's crazy, 4.19 should NOT be used for any system that requires new hardware. You all have read my "what kernel should I pick" guide, right? > Can I take this to mean that this patch series is not allowed to go into the > stable kernel? That is correct. Use a newer kernel, it's much better overall. Only reason you should be stuck on 4.19 at this point in time is if you have an SoC with millions of out-of-tree lines added to it (making a Linux-like system), or you are an "enterprise" distro and you are paying for support for them. Or you are using Debian, they know what they are doing there :) thanks, greg k-h