Re: [PATCH 4.19 0/5] Add support needed for Renesas USB 3.0 controller

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On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 10:15:12AM -0700, John Villalovos wrote:
> On 9/16/2020 10:08 AM, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 09:54:50AM -0700, John Villalovos wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 9/15/2020 11:31 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 02:30:34PM -0700, John L. Villalovos wrote:
> > > > > Add support needed for the Renesas USB 3.0 controller
> > > > > (PD720201/PD720202).  Without these patches a system with this USB
> > > > > controller will crash during boot.
> > > > Is this a regression, or something that has always happened?  If a
> > > > regression, any pointers to what commit caused this?
> > > > 
> > > > this really feels like a "new feature" addition to me, unless this used
> > > > to work properly.
> > > 
> > > It is not a regression. It is a crash that occurs on new hardware that has
> > > this USB controller.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Without this patch series, hardware with this USB controller will fail to
> > > work. So in the choice between "regression" and "new feature" I would say
> > > "new feature".
> > 
> > Ok, to support new hardware, use a newer kernel, no reason why 5.4 or
> > newer will not work here, right?
> 
> This is true, but some customers who want to use this hardware don't want
> (refuse) to use a new kernel :(

That's crazy, 4.19 should NOT be used for any system that requires new
hardware.  You all have read my "what kernel should I pick" guide,
right?

> Can I take this to mean that this patch series is not allowed to go into the
> stable kernel?

That is correct.  Use a newer kernel, it's much better overall.

Only reason you should be stuck on 4.19 at this point in time is if you
have an SoC with millions of out-of-tree lines added to it (making a
Linux-like system), or you are an "enterprise" distro and you are paying
for support for them.

Or you are using Debian, they know what they are doing there :)

thanks,

greg k-h



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