On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 09:23 -0700, James Bottomley wrote: > On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 21:38 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 18:26 -0700, James Bottomley wrote: > > > > > I think it's not in the original fallacies because they come from Greek > > > rhetoric and the Greeks believed dialectic: the taking opposite > > > positions and arguing them thoroughly. It's only with the advent of > > > Western European political systems that we're conditioned to seek > > > compromise without rigorous examination. This actually makes argument > > > to moderation one of the most effective rhetorical tools in use today > > > for discrediting an opponent's argument without actually addressing it. > > > > What? Really? You mean the truth doesn't lie in the middle between > > evolution and creationism? > > Well, you jest, but actually Intelligent Design is usually presented as > a false compromise between the "extremes" of evolution and creationism. > If you listen to it's proponents, the rhetorical device they use to > argue for legitimacy is precisely an argument to moderation. Exactly, which is why I used that as an example. And also, just to kick the hornet's nest. -- Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe stable" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html