On Tue, 16 Jul 2013, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > On 07/16/2013 09:58 AM, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > > > Because Linux is the most widely used kernel, it's everywhere from > > embedded devices to supercomputers. > > Many different companies make a business on Linux and pay people to work > > on it (not FreeBSD or NetBSD). But that's different from what I was > > saying below. Also not all the sub-groups within the kernel development > > circles work this way. > > > > I think you have an inverse causal relationship here. > > Linux took off in a way that the other OSS operating systems didn't, and > several of them had started earlier and with way more funding available. > > You really have to think about why we are not running Hurd, or any of > the various *BSDs, and instead Linus' "not big and professional like > GNU" hack. In my opinion it was because the Linux community was in fact > the most open and welcoming of the Open Source communities around. Then it's the time to ask ourselves: is it still like this? > > When HPA wrote "I find it utterly impossible to be offended by it", that > > might be true for Linus' rants and I also find them humorous sometimes. > > But unfortunately this kind of behavior is by no means limited to Linus > > and it's easy to misunderstand, especially when you don't know the > > person. > > There seem to be a fair number of people who think they can imitate > Linus' style but do so without understanding the subtle aspects about > how to apply it. Right, this is actually the main point I wanted to make. Linus' outbursts are not the problem per se because Linus tends to attack the code rather than the people and does so when he has a point, without straying from the conversation. However they set up an example that others try to imitate, without the same thoughtfulness. I guess this is the price to pay for being a role model ;-) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe stable" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html