On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > For older kernels, like 3.4, that version of udev should > still work ok, but I can't remember where the problem started showing up > so I could be totally wrong... It was never kernel-related, it was an udev regression. So if somebody is updating udev without updating the kernel... I forget which udev version it would be that introduced the "wait synchronously for firmware load", though. It was mentioned somewhere deep in that thread. The Fedora 17 problems with media driver firmware happened with udev-182, and Francis is talking about 181, but I don't know if the problem was _introduced_ in 182 or might affect the earlier 181 version too. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe stable" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html