----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "CAI Qian" <caiqian@xxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Sarah Sharp" <sarah.a.sharp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Linus Torvalds" > <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Guenter Roeck" <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Greg > Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Dave Jones" <davej@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Linux Kernel Mailing List" > <linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Andrew Morton" <akpm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "stable" <stable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, > "Darren Hart" <dvhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:47:34 AM > Subject: Re: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review > > On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 23:16 -0400, CAI Qian wrote: > > > > So if you talk about abuse, then you need an abuser and a victim. So > > > your argumentation falls flat because there is no victim. > > Could victim be someone else in the future since it is an example that > > people may follow? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvio_Berlusconi_underage_prostitution_charges > > It called "abuse of office" or abuse of the power. > > Wow! You are now comparing Linus to a Prime Minister that has paid > underage prostitutes for sex? > > That's pretty low. > > What Linus does is not an abuse of power, it's a protection of his baby. > He created Linux, and although today he's not the one writing the code, > he is ultimately the front man responsible for the kernel. Surely Linus has great responsibility, but isn't that every powerful person/organizatio could tell the same story? Berlusconi has a country to take care of; Jimmy Savile has a television kingdom to manage; NSA needs to protect world peace etc. > > Think about it. If Linux does something horrible, Linus is the one that > takes the most blame. That's a HUGE responsibility. Linus has the most > to lose if Linux becomes crap. > > Not only does Linus have to check on code, he must also dictate policy. > Which means dealing with different people, and how they work. If someone > gets lazy and uses his trust to get something whacky in, Linus takes the > blame for it if that happens. Thus, to prevent people from taking > advantage of his trust, he has to be hard on them to make sure he can > keep their trust. > > Linus takes his job seriously. He may joke and name his kernel after > 90's operating systems, but that's just to make the job more fun. But to > keep the job, he needs to be a hard ass. > > The few times he's yelled at me, he always did it with a bit of comedy > and wit. That makes the harsh yelling not so bad, and I actually got a > chuckle out of it. But I also took the harsh yelling in a way that I had > better not do that again. > > This is the big leagues folks. You think major league baseball managers > are nice to their players? > > "You just walked 4 players. That's not good. Keep this up I'll have to > take you out off the team". > > vs > > "What the f*ck is wrong with you. Get you head out of your @ss and start > throwing the ball over the God damn plate before I throw your @ss out of > this field!" > > They both relay basically the same thing. The first one is nice and > polite but states that bad things will happen if they keep it up. The > second is quite harsh (although never calling the person a name), and > will probably wake the person up and change his game. Which one of those > tones do you think successful baseball managers use? > > Sometimes tone *does* matter. You want quality from the top maintainers, > and they start to slack, you can't just treat them like this is a grade > school sport. Results matter. You want them to understand that this is > serious and cursing someone out gives that person that feeling. > > -- Steve > > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe stable" in > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe stable" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html