On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Stefano Stabellini > <stefano.stabellini@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Jul 2013, Steven Rostedt wrote: > >> The last thing I want to do is to lower the quality of the kernel just > >> to get a wider range of developers. > > > > Can we stop bringing the quality of the code into the discussion? > > Can you please stop calling open communication abuse? Open communication is one thing, abuse is another, so I agree with you there. > First you have > to explain *why* it was improper in order to call it abuse, and in the > few examples that have been shown, it has been explained that the > behavior was justified (breaking the #1 rule by a lieutenant who > should know better). Abuse is never justified, I hope that's clear for everybody. Two wrongs don't make a right. So we are down to the definition of verbal abuse. The Oxford dictionary gives me: "speak to (someone) in an insulting and offensive way" For example I think that calling somebody a moron qualifies. > > I think it's pretty clear that one doesn't need to be verbally abusive > > in order to stop bad code from getting into the kernel. > > You can think whatever you want, others have already shown that > changing the tone of the message in the examples would have changed > the desired effect. I disagree and it is certainly not the case in my experience. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe stable" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html