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On 13/01/2013 5:44 p.m., John Joseph wrote:
Hi Loic
Your feedback was quite useful, I was able to come up with some values after checking your configuration.

If by 3 years my users base increase to 4000 no, then will it be a over kill if I go with 32 GB ram.


4000 "users" (I assume that means, 1 client software == 1 user) all simultaneously downloading (+1 client I/O buffer) large objects (>256KB) which are *all* TCP_MISS (+1 server I/O buffer) and being REQMOD *and* RESPMOD ICAP filtered (+2 network I/O buffers) will consume ~5GB of RAM in Squid.
 + 1x client I/O buffer, 64KB
 +1x server I/O buffer, 64KB
 +2x ICAP I/O bufers, 128KB

The likelyhood of that happening is relatively low if you are an ISP. Far more likely is that you will have a mix of HIT/MISS, and notbe ICAP fitering some or most requests. Squid can operate happyly with a few hundred MB of RAM

The big RAM consumption comes from cache_mem, which is Squids in-memory filesystem for cache storage of high demand objects. That can consume as much or as little RAM as you can throw at it, up to a limit which is higher than most can afford to purchase yet.


As has been suggested earlier, *drop* the idea of "users" when calculating HTTP requirements. Users are irrelevant. One single user can completely max out a Gbps ethernet connection, and several thousand users can happily co-share a 56Kbps uplink. The traffic request rate and size are the key details for capacity planning, followed by the amount of processing components you are going to be performing on that traffic.

IMO, unless you are expecting to face some particularly unusual situation like hundreds of thousands of users or very high traffic rates the commonly available hardware can handle the traffic easily. Look for good I/O speeds with low latency on disk hardware, high write speeds for any SSD hardware planned, and the rest can be governed by your available budget.

----- Original Message -----
From: Loïc Blot

Hello Joseph,
I use a Dell R320 (2, because failover), under OpenBSD 5.2 with 16GB RAM
and Two Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB) (Broadcom 5720 isn't supported).
I have 500-600 users/smartphones and 1GB of WAN bandwidth.
To improve perfs (and this explain why so many RAM), i
move /var/squid/cache to mfs (memory file system), and i use 4G "disk"
cache and 3.5G memory cache. Perfs are very great.

I'll bet. You realize they could possibly be even better by using a 64-bit system and eliminating the "disk" cache? Squid swaps objects from memory cache to "disk" cache and back again during regular operation. If you have enough RAM to eliminate that, why bother forming a configuration that keeps the overheads?

Amos


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