As an outside observer with nothing really at stake here, it would seem that rather than Debian providing a hobbled version of the spice client that uses raw audio (disables Celt), they offer up a patch for both the server and the client that implements a negotiation for either Opus or Celt (for backwards compatibility). A spice client without Opus could utilize Celt and one that only supports Opus could negotiate with the server for Opus. The fall back for either is the raw PPM data. >From all accounts, it would seem that Opus has reached a frozen status, incorporates many of the same techniques and offers the same or better specs than Celt, and has the backing of an important standards organization. Kind of seems obvious to me where things should go. Not sure why there is so much arguing here. Brian _______________________________________________ Spice-devel mailing list Spice-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/spice-devel