On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 2:56 PM David Laight <David.Laight@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Maciej W. Rozycki > > Sent: 06 May 2022 13:27 > > On Fri, 6 May 2022, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > > If this is PCI/PCIe indeed, then an I/O access is just a different bit > > > > pattern put on the bus/in the TLP in the address phase. So what is there > > > > inherent to the s390 architecture that prevents that different bit pattern > > > > from being used? > > > > > > The hardware design for PCI on s390 is very different from any other > > > architecture, and more abstract. Rather than implementing MMIO register > > > access as pointer dereference, this is a separate CPU instruction that > > > takes a device/bar plus offset as arguments rather than a pointer, and > > > Linux encodes this back into a fake __iomem token. > > > > OK, that seems to me like a reasonable and quite a clean design (on the > > hardware side). > > > > So what happens if the instruction is given an I/O rather than memory BAR > > as the relevant argument? Is the address space indicator bit (bit #0) > > simply ignored or what? > > You don't understand something... > > For a memory BAR pci_ioremap() returns a token that can be used with readl(). > On most architectures readl() is just a memory access. > This all fails on an I/O BAR. > > For an I/O BAR you want a similar pair of functions. > On x86 the access function would need to use the 'in/out' instructions but > there is no requirement for the token to be the native io port number. > On many non-x86 architectures the access function would be a simple memory > access - but a specific system (eg many ppc) may never actually allow > such mappings to succeed. > > You might also want a third PCI mapping function that can map a memory > BAR or an I/O BAR - with a suitable access function. > On x86 this would need something like ioread8() for accesses. > Except that function uses small integers for io port numbers > (which is inherently dangerous). > > Nothing except the architecture specific implementation of the function > to access an io BAR would ever go near a function called inb(). > > The same is really true for other bus type - including ISA and EISA. > (Ignoring the horrid of probing ISI bus devices - hopefully they > are in the ACPI tables??_ > If a driver is probed on a ISA bus there ought to be functions > equivalent to pci_ioremap() (for both memory and IO addresses) > that return tokens appropriate for the specific bus. > > That is all a different load of churn. A loooong time ago, it was suggested to add register accessor functions to struct device, so e.g. readl(dev, offset) would call into these accessors, which would implement the bus-specific behavior. No more worries about readl(), __raw_readl(), ioread32b(), or whatever quirk is needed, at the (small on nowadays' machines) expense of some indirection... Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds