Hadriel, Without commenting on specifics, I agree with the general principle, that there are lots of common sources of interop problems, and anything we could do to try to reduce these problems would be good. Each one of the topics requires a lot of discussion to determine what we want to do. However, what are your expectations? For example, do you want to develop the present draft to the extent of providing a single BCP covering these and perhaps other problem areas that we might identify? Or do you want to see these addressed during the revving of RFC 3261 etc.? Or does each topic need to be dealt with separately? John > -----Original Message----- > From: sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx > [mailto:sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hadriel Kaplan > Sent: 09 March 2009 05:16 > To: sipping@xxxxxxxx > Subject: FW: I-D > Action:draft-kaplan-sipping-interop-bcp-01.txt > > > Howdy, > I have submitted a rough draft for a BCP for implementers to > improve SIP interoperability. > > Before you flame me for restricting SIP or having some evil > intention against some practice your implementation happens > to do, understand that: > a) this is just a first draft (though it's labeled version 01) > b) this is just a strawman, for discussion > c) interop problems are getting worse not better > d) interop problems are bad for us all, because it harms SIP's rep > e) this is a bit of a rushed job, and I haven't proof-read it > well due to time constraints (I have a day job, like anyone) > f) I am flame resistant (of the email variety, anyway) > > As always, comments/criticism/sarcasm/flames are welcomed. > > Have a nice day. :) > > -hadriel > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: i-d-announce-bounces@xxxxxxxx > [mailto:i-d-announce-bounces@xxxxxxxx] > > On Behalf Of Internet-Drafts@xxxxxxxx > > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 1:00 AM > > To: i-d-announce@xxxxxxxx > > Subject: I-D Action:draft-kaplan-sipping-interop-bcp-01.txt > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > > directories. > > > > Title : Best Current Practices for SIP > Interoperability > > Author(s) : H. Kaplan > > Filename : draft-kaplan-sipping-interop-bcp-01.txt > > Pages : 13 > > Date : 2009-03-08 > > > > This document identifies several commonly found interoperability > > issues with SIP, and provides guidance to implementers for how to > > avoid them. This is an initial set of commonly found problems. > > > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kaplan-sipping-interop-bcp- > > 01.txt > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > > Internet-Draft. > _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx for questions on current sip Use sip@xxxxxxxx for new developments of core SIP