Re: TR: I-DAction:draft-boucadair-sipping-ipv6-atypes-00.txt

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Wing [mailto:dwing@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:55 AM
> To: Hadriel Kaplan; mohamed.boucadair@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; sipping@xxxxxxxx
> 
> Recall the original plan for v6 was 'just install it, and
> everything works'.  That failed.  The industry has figured
> that out, and IETF is trying to do its part to correct that
> failure.

Actually I think we're like 0 for 3 or something so far.


> I acknowledge that SIP / SIPPING have not had a discussion
> of how to best accomplish the v4/v6 transition, especially
> in light of the failure of dual-stack hosts and in light
> of the emergence of IPv6+NAT44 ("dual-stack lite") and
> NAT64.  These are all relatively 'new', of course, but we
> are somewhat running out of time to navel gaze.  V4 addresses
> continue to be used up, even "due to this economic climate"
> (I mention that solely because I'm sure someone would tell
> me that the consumption of IPv4 addresses has slowed "due
> to the current economic climate").
> 
> > > Of course, if they just grin and expect the SBC solves the
> > > problem, we can all sleep easier at night.
> >
> > I didn't say that, and I don't even believe it.  There are
> > many SIP domains which have no SBC's, and shouldn't.  For
> > them, ICE is great.  For others, not so much.  We should let
> > the two communicate.
> 
> Yes, we need the two to communicate.
> 
> It sounds a lunch or bar-BoF is in order?

Yeah.  First round's on me, unless it's a ton of folks - due to the current economic climate. ;)

-hadriel
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