Re: Summary of Closing the offer/answer rollback issue?

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Hi,
 
Regarding "committed new modification during Re-INVITE", I don't think there is a difference between yours and Gonzalo's proposal, right?
 
Regards,
 
Christer


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"Sanjay Sinha (sanjsinh)" <sanjsinh@xxxxxxxxx>
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2009-03-02 15:00

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Re: Summary of Closing the offer/answer rollback issue?





 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx
>[mailto:sipping-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christer Holmberg
>Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:48 AM
>To: Hadriel Kaplan; Gonzalo Camarillo; sipping
>Subject: Re: Summary of Closing the offer/answer
>rollback issue?
>
>
>Hi,
>
>>>I think the one of the main issues at the moment is what
>happens after
>
>>>preconditions have been met on both sides:
>>>
>>>1) Is the change now commited/in-use, and a re-INVITE failure would
>not
>>>change that?                                       <----- "in-use"
>alternative
>>>OR
>>>2) Would a re-INVITE failure cause a fallback (this is what is meant
>by
>>>"late commitment")?                                <---- "late
>commitment" alternative
>>
>>Ahh.  Well if that's the issue, I vote for doing exactly
>whatever would
>>happen if a normal (non-pre-conditional) SDP offer/answer is
>exchanged
>>and the re-INVITE fails.  I have absolutely no idea what that
>would be,
>>but it should be the same. :) (I mean I know what 3261 says, that it
>>reverts all the way back, but I have no idea if that's actually what
>>most people do)
>
>Sure, the issue is valid also for non pre-condition use-cases.
>
>For example.
>
>The UAC sends an SDP offer in a re-INVITE, and receives an SDP
>answer in a reliable 18x. But, then what happens when the
>re-INVITE fails?

To complicate it even futher, there may be some UPDATE transacations
with sdp between the two endpoints in session, before there is a final
response to re-Invite.
Since the transaction is complete in media plane, I think it should stay
even if actual signaling transacation finally fails. And that's not what
RFC 3261 says.


[Gao] Yes.

IMO:

Modification triggered by Re-INVITE MUST rollback as the failure of Re-INVITE.  --That is the original concept of RFC3261

Any committed new modification during Re-INVITE with other SIP transaction, would have nothing to do with the Re-INVITE's failure or success.  --That is the original concept of RFC3311.

Do you think so?


Sanjay


>
>1) Is the change now commited/in-use, and a re-INVITE failure would not
>change that?                                       <----- "in-use"
>alternative
>
>OR
>
>2) Would a re-INVITE failure cause a fallback (this is what is meant by
>"late commitment")?                                <---- "late
>commitment" alternative
>
>>If I had my druthers the SDP change would stick (not revert),
>because I
>>personally think it's cleaner, but I can see an argument for
>both ways.
>
>Yes.
>
>Regards,
>
>Christer
>
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