Re: Collecting ideas for audit2allow improvement

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On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:30:25AM -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On Wed, 2017-06-14 at 09:01 -0400, Jan Zarsky wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I would like to improve SELinux audit2allow tool as my bachelor
> > thesis.
> > I collected ideas from my colleagues from RedHat SELinux team and I
> > would also
> > like to hear your ideas - what would you improve to make audit2allow
> > smarter or
> > easier to use.
> > 
> > Ideas collected so far:
> > 
> >   * offer dac_read_search when sufficient instead of dac_override
> >     (see <https://github.com/SELinuxProject/selinux/issues/31>)
> 
> The hard part here is knowing when it is sufficient.  Might require
> further kernel patches to get to the point where it is completely
> unambiguous from the audit messages alone.  You could perhaps default
> to only allowing dac_read_search and only allow dac_override if you see
> that dac_read_search is already allowed and you are still getting a
> dac_override denial.

This should not be an issue anymore. Becuase now (linux v4.12) dac_read_search is first checked
so translating a rule for dac_read_search will always be the most secure option. It might not be enough but youll notice if it isnt. Just rerun it again and you'll end up with dac_override if needed.

> 
> >   * offer multiple solutions to a problem (example: 1) add allow rule
> > for
> >     execute + execute_no_trans or 2) add allow rule for execute
> >     + type_transition rule)
> 
> Is this type_transition to an existing type that already exists, or
> defining a new type and transitioning to it, or both?  Generating new
> domains and types dynamically is one of the major gaps in current
> audit2allow, and to date has only been supported in separate tools like
> sepolicy generate.

One should be extremely careful here. "execute" does not automatically imply "execute_no_trans". That assumption can lead to disaster (https://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2015-1815/)
> 
> >   * interactive mode: ask questions and choose best solution
> >   * warn when solution touches trusted computing base (rules you
> > should not be
> >     adding)
> >   * suggest alternate labels for content, example: httpd_t not
> > allowed to write
> >     to user_home_t, might suggest that changing the label to
> >     httpd_user_content_t
> 
> This seems more along the lines of what setroubleshoot does, and tends
> to be policy-specific. We need to preserve the usability of audit2allow
> for other policies (e.g. Android, DSSP), so any policy-specific logic
> needs to be encapsulated, configuration-driven, and optional.

setroubleshoot is not smart enough to suggest httpd_user_content_t, instead it suggest you allow full access to /home/* by toggling the boolean that grants access to user home content.

I know this from experience. There was a bug in fedora's apache_user_content_template for more than a year and hardly anyone noticed it, probably because setroubleshoot would have just suggested you allow full access to user home content.

> 
> >   * output to CIL (add option for this)
> 
> This would definitely be useful, as generating .te files just adds
> overhead at this point and makes audit2allow depend on having
> checkmodule and semodule_package installed.  In fact, I think we should
> move to generating CIL by default and just provide an option for
> generating .te files for backward compat.
> 
> >   * if the AVC talks about execute permission then offer also
> > type_transition
> >     rule
> >   * idea for a tool for automatic policy generation: On a test system
> > you
> >     install application, turn the SELinux to permissive and run a
> > full test
> >     suit. You collect all the AVCs in say Elasticsearch (can use
> > common logging
> >     ViaQ project for that) and then there is a tool that searches the
> > AVC,
> >     groups them and creates a policy out of them.
> 
> This seems similar to sepolicy generate.  We don't want to bring in
> many extra dependencies to audit2allow, but being able to dynamically
> generate new domains and types would IMHO be useful.
> 
> >   * add option to open bugzilla
> 
> Need to be careful here since not all SELinux users are Red Hat users.
> 
> >   * output to Ansible playbook/role task (add option for this)
> 
> Another improvement:
> 
> * Add ability to generate ioctl whitelisting rules, see for example:
> http://jeffvanderstoep.blogspot.com/2016/02/collecting-ioctl-command-denials-for.html
> but note that the syntax has changed to e.g.
> allowxperm <sourcedomain> <targetdomain>:<class> ioctl { <list of ioctl
> command values> };
> 
> > I would also like to know which feature would you appreciate the
> > most.
> 
> You should likely study the tooling and workflow used by other security
> projects, e.g. AppArmor, TOMOYO, grsecurity, for policy learning and
> generation.
> 

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