o.k. Stephen, bug entry: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=582399 you were right with some init file not having #! /bin/bash on the top of the head. after looking around and gutting /etc/init.d I found that the files: /etc/rc.status and rc.splash has no such entry, so after adding this entry and rebooting I can get a clean bootup and policy load without the need for init_upstart=1 cheers.. Justin P. Mattock -- This message was distributed to subscribers of the selinux mailing list. If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message.