In the recent days, we have a hot discussion about what features should be included within the next PostgreSQL release (v8.4) in the pgsql-hackers list. SE-PostgreSQL is a candidate of new features in the v8.4, but it has been left for unreviewed yet. | Bruce Momjian wrote: | OK, time for me to chime in. | | I think the outstanding commit-fest items can be broken down into four | sections: | | o Log streaming | o Hot standby | o SE-PostgreSQL | o Others - snip - | SE-PostgreSQL has been in steady development for a year so this is the | time to decide about it. My feeling is if we don't accept it now, we | are never going to have SE-Linux or row-level security. The next week | should show us the right direction when we start discussion on | Wednesday, noon GMT. It seems to me some of pgsql-hackers concerned about security experts don't join to its review process (except for me :), so it is unclear whether the SE-PostgreSQL feature is really desired, or not, and whether its security design is really appropriate, or not. I would like to want some your helps. Please see, http://www.postgresql.org/community/lists/subscribe -> "pgsql-hackers" http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-01/threads.php -> "8.4 release planning" thread (sorry, it's a quite long thread). Thanks, Stephen Frost wrote: > Greetings, > > Hope the below hasn't already been sent here, if so, sorry, didn't > see it in the archives though. This is very important for PostgreSQL > upstream addition of SE-Postgres. I'm hopeful that there are some on > this list who can help the PostgreSQL core members be comfortable that > the patch does what is intended and properly implements the security it > claims. > > The top of the current thread on -hackers can be found here: > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-01/msg01840.php > in particular: > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-01/msg01962.php > and others around that timeframe help frame this discussion. > > In particular, we're looking for security experts who are familiar > with implementing SELinux (or similar..) in an RDBMS such as > PostgreSQL to review the patch, documentation, etc. > > Please see below, and thanks. > > Stephen > > ----- Forwarded message from Bruce Momjian <bruce@xxxxxxxxxx> ----- > > Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:36:22 -0500 (EST) > From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: PostgreSQL-announce <pgsql-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL124 (25)] > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham > version=3.2.5 > Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Need help on possible PG 8.4 security features > > The PostgreSQL community is considering including security enhancements > in Postgres 8.4, e.g. row-level permissions and SE-Linux security. > However, to evaluate the patch and its usefulness, we need security > experts who want to use this capability or have used it in other > databases. > > The most recent version of the patch is mentioned here: > > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-01/msg01680.php > > Particularly interesting is the documentation patch: > > http://sepgsql.googlecode.com/files/sepostgresql-docs-8.4devel-3-r1460.patch > > If you know someone who is interested in these features or can help in > discussing them, please have them subscribe to pgsql-hackers here: > > http://www.postgresql.org/community/lists/subscribe > > Email discussion about this topic will start on Wednesday, January 28, > at 12:00 GMT, and will include the subject text "SE-PostgreSQL". > -- OSS Platform Development Division, NEC KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- This message was distributed to subscribers of the selinux mailing list. If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message.