On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Eamon Walsh <ewalsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Joe Nall wrote: >> >> On Jun 18, 2008, at 7:20 PM, Eamon Walsh wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Xavier Toth wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I'm contemplating some AVC's that originate in metacity and am >>>> wondering whether a window manager is a special case of an X client >>>> that requires its' own policy. Are there things that a window manager >>>> does that other X clients shouldn't? Also on an MLS system should the >>>> window manager run at the users highwater mark or ranged? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> The window manager basically needs the full run of the display. When >>> another application creates a window, the window manager creates a second >>> window with the titlebar and borders, and then plops the application window >>> down inside of it (reparents it). It also moves windows around and resizes >>> them, sets properties on them (such as the _NET_WM_DESKTOP property that >>> contains the desktop number) and listens for events so it can tell when to >>> change the focus window. Finally, a compositing manager actually needs to >>> read the window contents. It's definitely a special-case app that's going >>> to need its own policy. >>> >>> It almost certainly needs permissions on all windows that map to both >>> read and write in the MLS configuration. So it will need read- and >>> write-all-levels. >>> >> >> What other desktop related processes need MLS policies to be written to >> get a minimally functional Fedora/Gnome enforcing X environment? >> > > Don't know for sure...but probably gnome-session (starts up processes), > nautilus and gnome-panel (can be used to launch processes; gnome-panel > interacts with small applet windows that are inside it). > >> What window manager/environment do you use in your enforcing X >> development and test? >> > > I have one machine where I compile the full Xorg distribution, policy, and a > few other things (pam, gdm) from scratch. I just finished setting up > another machine that runs Fedora 9, with just refpolicy and XCB compiled > from source. This should make it easier for me to develop and test policy. > It's just running regular GNOME, although I may install XFCE on it as well. > >> Do you have a start on a window manager policy that we could try? >> > > It should be transitioned into a domain that has unconfined TE perms over X > objects, and is MLS trusted. MLS policy doesn't come with unconfined, right? I can build it in but what's are people thinking long term about doing this, will it be included in future MLS policy configurations? > After that it's a matter of seeing what > permissions regular applications need over window-manager created windows, > particularly decoration windows. They might need some permissions over the > window manager's windows since they might try to manipulate the > window-manager "decoration" windows that their own app window is reparented > into. To deal with this, I think that the window manager is going to need > to call SetWindowCreateContext to put window decorations into the same > context as the associated application window. This will introduce a xcb-xselinux dependency. > I'm hoping to try and make a > patch to do this, this week. > > > -- > Eamon Walsh <ewalsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > National Security Agency > > -- This message was distributed to subscribers of the selinux mailing list. If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message.