Re: Deprecating setlocaldefs, preservebools support in libselinux

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On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 16:02 -0500, Joshua Brindle wrote:
> Stephen Smalley wrote:
> > I'd still like to deprecate setlocaldefs support and preservebools
> > support in libselinux in the trunk (i.e. libselinux 2.x).  I posted
> > patches for completely removing such support a long while ago, but those
> > particular patches would require an ABI change (as they include API
> > removal) and thus I held off on them, but we could also take the more
> > intermediate approach of just turning off the functionality by default
> > in libselinux without disturbing the ABI.
> >
> > As a refresher, setlocaldefs support refers to the support for pulling
> > in local boolean and user definitions at policy load time w/o managed
> > policy, i.e. the approach used in RHEL4 and Fedora 3 and 4 (but not in
> > Fedora 5 and later or RHEL5).  By default, libselinux still checks for
> > such definitions and patches them into the in-memory policy at load time
> > unless /etc/selinux/config has SETLOCALDEFS=0.  I'd like to make
> > SETLOCALDEFS=0 the default in the trunk and require SETLOCALDEFS=1
> > in /etc/selinux/config to enable the old behavior.
> >
> > preservebools support refers to the support for preserving active
> > boolean values across a policy reload by having libselinux patch the
> > active values into the in-memory policy at policy load time.  As of
> > Linux 2.6.22 and later, this is now handled automatically by the kernel
> > as part of the policy reload and isn't needed in userspace.  I'd like to
> > also disable this by default in libselinux and perhaps allow it to be
> > enabled via some /etc/selinux/config setting.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >   
> 
> I'm fine saying its deprecated but CLIP currently uses an updated 
> toolchain for both RHEL5 and RHEL4 (adds policy management capabilities 
> to RHEL4) so removing the boolean preservation functionality would be 
> detrimental. setlocaldefs isn't used very often afaik but we sometimes 
> build systems where the use of 'managed policy' is objected to, in which 
> case the only way to add users is via users.local. With this in mind 
> we'll just have to be careful when upgrading the CLIP toolchain not to 
> use a version that eventually removes this support.

When you say "uses an updated toolchain", do you mean that it replaces
the system libraries or just that it uses a private copy of the updated
userland for managing and generating the kernel policy file?  If the
former, then yes, this means that you'd have to at least set values
in /etc/selinux/config to enable the legacy behavior, but if the latter,
then it shouldn't affect you at all - init and load_policy would still
use the system libselinux library for loading the policy, and thus still
have the legacy behavior.

-- 
Stephen Smalley
National Security Agency


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