I am looking for a password program that root can use..DUH. I want to set a minimum # of characters, uppercase letters, and numbers/special characters. I have tried to use PAM with Cracklib like this: /etc/pam.d/passd and /etc/pam.d/login (have tried in both): password required pam_cracklib.so minlen=10 dcredit= 2 ucredit=2 // minimum of 10 characters, 2 uppercase, 2 digits I then saved and exited, rebooted and logged in as root and created a new user, did the password, and then logged out and logged back in as the user and changed my password and none of the requireds that i made took. I have researched this and the only info i can find that is slightly helpful is from http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam.html Is there anything i am doing wrong in this?? OR is there a program that i can use in Gnome/command line that will do this same thing but work?? I work for Dell Linux and have talked to RH and they just looked at the code for Linuxconf and didnt find anything usefull except for Linuxconf specific info/config and NO i do NOT want to use Linuxconf...using RH 7.1 and it is not supported by/from RH since they didnt isntall it by default due to some issues with the new layout or something like that, dont know specifically...but you can isntall it but i dont want it. Rob Wideman ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe email security-discuss-request@linuxsecurity.com with "unsubscribe" in the subject of the message.