RE: [Redhat-s390-list] RH 7.3

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Pete,

I understand what you're saying, and can sympathize.  The message you need
to take back to the people who make these policies is this:
Red Hat is trying to concentrate more on gaining ground in the enterprise
market.  Enterprise customers, such as my company, expect a certain amount
of candor from their suppliers.  IBM used to have a policy very similar to
what Red Hat has now.  Their customer base beat up on them for years and
years because the customers have a legitimate need to know what sorts of
things are coming, _very roughly_ when (if dates slip no one gets too upset
because they know things change) they're coming, etc.  IBM eventually
changed their policy and everyone is much happier now.  Customers get a
vague idea of what is coming, what is being phased out, etc., etc., IBM
engineers such as Alan Altmark, and Romney White can speak a little more
freely, and so on.  Everyone benefited from the policy change.  Accompanying
that, though, was the understanding that only those official IBM documents
that so stated were to be absolutely counted upon.  Anything else was very
unofficial, but still very useful.

To be unable to get an answer to such an important question such as "Will
Red Hat continue to produce Linux/390 distributions" is unacceptable in the
enterprise market.  The executives in Red Hat need to understand that and
take the gags off the mouths of the people who know what's going on.

Again, I understand that you have to live with the policies that are
currently in place.  I just hope you'll pass this message on to whomever
makes those policies.

Thanks,

Mark Post

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Zaitcev [mailto:zaitcev@redhat.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:08 PM
To: Wilson, Eric
Cc: redhat-s390-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Redhat-s390-list] RH 7.3


Look, guys. It is extremely hazardous to give out a forward looking
statement. Suppose I say you "oh sure, I am working on 7.3/s390",
and then we do not meet the schedule, or something else happens,
such as AS 2.x/s390 release, or a some other change of direction.
It's a lawsuit business right there. Neither my salary, nor Florian's
is remotely enough to cover attorney fees, never mind the settlement!
So, why don't you lay off of such questions at technical lists?
They are NOT going to be answered by engineers.

The ONLY person who is authorized to make any forward looking
statements in public is the company spokeperson Mark Webbink.
Florian is putting his career on the line to answer your
quetion, so say him thanks, and please be content.

-- Pete

> From: "Wilson, Eric" <Eric.Wilson@anheuser-busch.com>
> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 09:56:36 -0500

> Sorry, you response was a bit confusing.  Can you confirm / clarify? Does
this
> mean there will no longer be a RedHat release for the S/390 platform?
> 
> Cheers;
> E!
> 
> Eric Wilson
> IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert 
> RedHat Certified Engineer
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: 	Florian La Roche [mailto:laroche@redhat.com] 
> Sent:	Tuesday, July 09, 2002 12:49 AM
> To:	Ryan Sweat
> Cc:	redhat-s390-list@redhat.com
> Subject:	Re: [Redhat-s390-list] RH 7.3
> 
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 10:05:56PM -0500, Ryan Sweat wrote:
> > Is there currently any plan to release 7.3 for s/390 platform? 
> 
> Hello Ryan Sweat,
> 
> Most S/390 changes are integrated into Red Hat Linux 7.3, but we
> currently don't have plans to productize it.
> 
> greetings,
> 
> Florian La Roche

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