Apologies to anyone on both mailing lists for the duplication, but I wanted to make sure this got everyone involved on both lists. Bernhard, I doubt that you personally made the decision to exclude these modules from the Red Hat ramdisks, but since you answered the question, you get my response. This is unacceptable. For people with OSA/OSA-E cards on their systems, it creates an additional burden to getting your distribution installed. The reason given for not including them is rather weak and, I suspect, specious. Every other Linux distributor has found it possible to include these modules in a way that didn't severely impact their business. I thought Red Hat's way of initially including them in a separate /lib/modules directory was a fairly elegant way of accommodating them. Excluding them now looks particularly political, and I don't appreciate being the victim of those kinds of politics. I and John Krogulecki of Lilly spent a good number of hours over the last week trying to figure out why his OSA card suddenly wasn't being initialized. A subtle "not supported" message in the README file is not a very polite way of announcing their removal. Again, understand that this is not directed at you personally, Bernhard. I just want you to pass on to whomever _did_ make this decision that the whole thing stinks. Mark Post -----Original Message----- From: Bernhard Rosenkraenzer [mailto:bero@redhat.de] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:01 PM To: Post, Mark K Cc: 'redhat390' Subject: Re: [Redhat-s390-list] OSA/OSA-E Drivers in Red Hat Linux/390 On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Post, Mark K wrote: > I found this statement in the 08/18/2001 README file at > ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/rawhide/s390/README > > "- The lcs and the qeth drivers are not supported from Red Hat as they > are binary-only drivers that cannot be loaded into our standard > Red Hat Linux kernel and as they are not Open Source..." > > Is this why the lcs.o and qeth.o modules are not included in either the > initrd.img or tapeinrd.img files? Yes. LLaP bero