On Jul 29, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Axel Thimm wrote:
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 01:11:49PM -0400, Jeff Johnson wrote:
Let's settle on stylistic differences :=)
Let's not.
Then let's settle on "me right, you wrong".
Seriously Jeff, it works, and the alternative of having web-counters
just isn't. Why haven't we package monkeys used a web-counter? Are we
that stupid? Obviously you think so.
"Works" how? You have never defined the goal of adding %{dist} and so
its impossible to tell what the goal of adding %{dist} without asking
someone
what it means.
That is a branding, not and engineering issue.
Sure adding %{dist} is cheap advertising for various political entities.
Unfortunately, the branding aspects of adding %{dist} are increasingly
a death knell for distributing software because its not properly
branded.
Do the majority of packages built with
%define dist fc4
"work" on a system that chooses to identify itself with
%define dist fc5
Quite likely. That's the engineering, not the branding, truth.
Meanwhile the branding leads to increasing fragmentation of ever
scarcer resources
in OSS while brands are transferred from one cellophane wrapoper to
another.
The point is that rpm (or deb) packaging just has its limits. Within
these limits we try to make the best. And in this case, it's using
disttags and not a web-counter, sorry.
If you redesign rpm-5 or rpm-ng to drop epochs, address disttags vs
source-tags, let rpm make coffee and heal the world, we'll be all
hailing to the new order, but until then we need to sail our ships to
the other side of the ocean w/o them sinking and w/o waiting for the
ocean to dry to get to the other side.
You're right that package managers are at fault for not identifying
the necessary
incompatibilities sufficiently to distribute binary software
flawlessly without permitting vendors (and I include Debian
in the class vendor loosely) to hawk their wares on the cellophane ad
nauseum.
Enough said, I'll go have my bananas.
Nuts for me, thank you.
73 de Jeff
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