<snip> I am battling to find a way to configure the size/appearance of windows in the GNOME desktop, because it often happens that I will start a program (For example, the K3B cd burner config window) and the window is too darned huge for me to actually get to the bottom where the 'forward', 'back', 'OK', 'cancel' etc. buttons are. What's more, in many cases I can't even resize the menu windows manually. </snip> Hmm... I think this is because your screen resolution is too small. Is that the case? YOu're using 800x600?? I tend to get this problem with my old laptop as well. nothing much I can do about it.. I guess it's cause the windows size is somehow 'fixed' <snip> I tried upgrading my sawfish package (version 1.2-5) and got a tarball package for sawfish-1.3. I ran ./configure --enable-capplet , make all , make install in the unpacked sawfish directory, according to the README instructions. When running an rpm -qa | grep -i sawfish I notice that the system still shows version 1.2-5 in the rpmdatabase. How do I </snip> Er.. you installed the tarball package and you did a ./configure.. so.. My guess is your tried installing the source tarball and not the rpm package.. Am I right? If that is the case, then of course it will not show up. Because the rpm will only update the Rpm database. <snip> (With source RPM's, one could use rpmbuild to achieve this, but I am not sure how to get it to work with tarballs) </snip> well, depending on whether the developer made a .spec file. if there is, then you can do a rpmbuild -ta (i forgot the switch) sawfish.tar.gz and it'll be made into a rpm. BTW, can you tell me your success stories with k3b??? Does it work only in KDE?? Do you have to install KDE to use it?? I use Gnome.. possible to use k3b?? It looks nice.. What's the end-user experience?? Good like Nero or Feurio?? Cheers, .^. Mun Heng, Ow /V\ H/M Engineering /( )\ Western Digital M'sia ^^-^^ DID : 03-7870 5168 The Linux Advocate -----Original Message----- From: Jason Dale [mailto:redhat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 6:00 PM To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Sawfish Windows manager + tarballs Hi all, I am running Red Hat Linux 9 on an AMD athlon 1.2 Ghz. I have two questions: 1) I am battling to find a way to configure the size/appearance of windows in the GNOME desktop, because it often happens that I will start a program (For example, the K3B cd burner config window) and the window is too darned huge for me to actually get to the bottom where the 'forward', 'back', 'OK', 'cancel' etc. buttons are. What's more, in many cases I can't even resize the menu windows manually. I tried to use the sawfish Windows manager, in 'Preferences --> more preferences --> sawfish windows manager' [ GNOME desktop ]. However, when I try to open any of the programs like Window placement or Window appearance, nothing happens. I access the same set of programs from the 'start here' icon on the desktop, and the same thing - I try to run the application and nothing happens. Any ideas on what could be causing this? 2) Based on 1), I tried upgrading my sawfish package (version 1.2-5) and got a tarball package for sawfish-1.3. I ran ./configure --enable-capplet , make all , make install in the unpacked sawfish directory, according to the README instructions. When running an rpm -qa | grep -i sawfish I notice that the system still shows version 1.2-5 in the rpmdatabase. How do I install in such a way that the system will also update its RPM database? (With source RPM's, one could use rpmbuild to achieve this, but I am not sure how to get it to work with tarballs) Thanks a stack, Jason -- Shrike-list mailing list Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list -- Shrike-list mailing list Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list