RE: Burn Speed to CD-R (was Re: SATA problems)

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If this is the _only_ solution, then how come all the cd-burner guys are
producing burners up to 52x and everyone's _not_ been able to burn at 52x
speed and _not_ complain???

What gives? The below solution looks plausible and reasonable but it defies
the logic of why produce _such_ fast burn speeds if you can't even burn at
that speed without going through some other hardware changes...

AAARGH!!!



Cheers,
Mun Heng, Ow
H/M Engineering
Western Digital M'sia 
DID : 03-7870 5168


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian T. Brunner [mailto:brian.t.brunner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 2:46 AM
To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Burn Speed to CD-R (was Re: SATA problems)



This will vary with disk models:

Take the number of sectors, divide by the number of (cylinders *
heads), 
this is the number of sectors that flies under one head in one
revolution of the disk.

Factor in the spindle-speed of the disk, and you get the number of
sectors/second that pass under one head.  

Since only 1 head can be read or written at a time, this is the maximum
long-haul data transfer rate of the hard drive.

For 7200RPM drives this is about ATA33 speed.

ATA100 thru ATA5000 is cache-to-RAM speed, which matters for accessing
"the next sector" after you've 
gotten the first; if the spindle is still doing 7200RPM you're still
moving data at a long-haul speed of about ATA33.

If you burn lots of CDs and want to do so more quickly than 24x, RAID
(stripe) your HDs (making the drives 
master on 1 bus each) and put your CD on a 3rd bus (that may take
buying a separate controller for either the 
CD or the RAIDed drives).  That will increase the data-under-the-head
speed by about a factor of two i.e.48x.

Yes, the CD media itself must support this speed.

Brian Brunner
brian.t.brunner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(610)796-5838

>>> ow.mun.heng@xxxxxxx 09/26/03 03:40AM >>>
Samsung 52x24x52 

using Imation CD-R. (they are Good??)

Anyway, the problem lies.. not in the CDR quality but the transfer rate
from
HD to CD-R. They simulation only gotten me like 24x-27x of transfer
rate! 

That is the main problem.. I think.. HD's on UDMA5.

Cheers,
Mun Heng, Ow
H/M Engineering
Western Digital M'sia 
DID : 03-7870 5168


-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Kelsoe [mailto:randykel@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:36 PM
To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: Re: Burn Speed to CD-R (was Re: SATA problems)


Ow Mun Heng wrote:

>hehe.. No.. actually this is my dad's desktop.. (and Yes.. I
should've
>changed thread)
>
>nero for M$. (is there a nero for Linux?? If Yes.. I'm switching..)
>
>The media(imation) is rated at 1-48x. (tried 24,32,40,48x works on
<24x)
>Running simulation mode.. only yielded like ~3M to 4M/s transfer rate.
If I
>run the "test all drives transfer speed" I get up to 40MB/s. 
>
>so.. what gives??
>
>  
>
My guess is that it might be related to the "BurnProof" function of the

drive. I'm using The Imation 48X CD-R's, with a Plextor 40x12x40 CD-R,

and cdrecord, using the "driveropts=burnfree" option, and no matter
what 
speed I specify, cdrecord seems to choose its own burn speed (faster or

slower). If the media is is of high quality, it will burn at a faster 
rate. Last time I looked, Yamaha CD-R's were rated as the best,  
followed by CompUSA's CD-R's, and Imation was close by. Yamaha's CD-R's

are more expensive, but you might try buying a couple and see what
speed 
they will burn.

Not all burners are equal. You did not mention what brand of burner you

use. Have you checked for firmware updates for the drive?




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