I installed RH9 on all of machines(6) rather uneventfully. I run KDE as a desktop and on all but my laptop kdm came up as the login manager post install. On my laptop the gdm came up as my login manager although it still boots into KDE. I went into /etc/sysconfig/desktop and added DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE" below the "DESKTOP=KDE" entry. The system now boots into KDE using kdm, however, when I kdm to log out the existing user the system hangs immediately after blanking the display. If I select shutdown that appears to work okay. The only way out is to kill the power to the laptop. I realize this is something of a KDE question, but I think it is really a post-upgrade issue. I able to consistently repeat it. If I go back and delete the DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE" gdm becomes the boot manager and it works fine including the logoff existing user option. Thanks Steve -- Shrike-list mailing list Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list