> Hmmm, apt is bloated c++ code, yes, but it can come in handy. Maybe you > should try apt again, it's been long since it doesn't use --force nor > --nodeps anymore. It operates quite smoothly, and performance is overall > improving with every new release. > really? I looked at 0.5.5 not so long ago and I found --force --nodeps by grepping my way through. But I'm open to being mistaken. however, I know apt has to be using --noorder and --force b/c it can't do otherwise. it can't do simultaneous installs/updates and erasures using the rpm cli (which it invokes for its installation routines) so that means: it has to erases separately from installs/updates which means it can't always get the deps right on any one try - hence requiring --nodeps and --noorder and if I'm not mistaken apt lets you have a non-closed-dependency rpmdb so it must have a --force invocation in there. > Yum is cool though. Want to code a nice PyGTK frontend inspired by > synaptic? ;-) -sv