I wanted to try out Mozilla 1.4 beta, and when I saw that Rawhide had packages I downloaded them, and as a (known) consequence had to uninstall Galeon. Seeing that Rawhide also had Epiphany, I installed that and gave it a whirl. As a web developer, I use Mozilla when I'm working because the DOM Inspector and the Venkman debugger are invaluable. But when I'm just browsing I used to use Galeon because it was so speedy. Well, Epiphany feels even speedier, and I like it's no options minimal configuration style - very GNOME 2, although I appreciate that many dislike that trend. That's the good bit. What I can't get used to is Epiphany's new fangled bookmarking system. There is no bookmarks menu, instead you type the first few letters of a bookmark title into the location bar and a drop-down gives you a choice of possible completions. There is no user-defined bookmark hierarchy that I can determine. If you are the kind of person who is hopelessly disorganised, who keeps all of your emails in your inbox, all of your files in the same directory, and all of your bookmarks in the top-level bookmark menu this is probably a God-send. However, if you are like me, and had a very carefully organised system of bookmarks, in a very hierarchical system of sub-folders, then Epiphany is a complete nightmare. I can't find any of my bookmarks anymore! I don't remember their name, so I don't know what letters to start typing - I just remember what category and sub-category I filed them under. I had so many bookmarks, that I would often forget that I had bookmarked something, and would enjoy browsing through my own bookmarks menu, discovering things that I had totally forgotten about! No more in Epiphany. This is like a file manager that chooses to ignore your own system of folders and sub-folders, but instead displays every file as if it was in your home directory! Users? Pah! What do they know about filing - I'll just ignore whatever they've done and organise everything how I see fit! I have to say that I can see no advantage to this new bookmark system whatsoever. Until Epiphany changes this I'll be using Mozilla as my browser and praying that Red Hat bring back Galeon! Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren@xxxxxxxxxxx www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) =====================================================================