-----Mensaje original----- De: shrike-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:shrike-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx]En nombre de shrike-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx Enviado el: Martes, 13 de Mayo de 2003 11:00 a.m. Para: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Asunto: Shrike-list digest, Vol 1 #347 - 13 msgs Send Shrike-list mailing list submissions to shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to shrike-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at shrike-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Shrike-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: gnome-vfs (William Hooper) 2. Loging into a Windows Share with Nautilus (Bruce P. Morin) 3. Re: Pick one: blender (Tino Meinen) 4. Re: rpm rebuilddb error (Oliver Schulze L.) 5. Re: Pick one: blender (Cliff Kent) 6. Re: Increasing Memory Usage (Markku Kolkka) 7. Re: Sendmail and squirrelmail (Rigoberto de la Cruz) 8. Re: RH 9 Errors (Avner BenHanoch) 9. Re: Sendmail and squirrelmail (Jarod C. Wilson) 10. Re: Realplayer 9 / RealOne (was - Re: Realplayer 8) (Ed.Greshko@xxxxxxxxxxx) 11. Re: Sendmail and squirrelmail (Harry Putnam) 12. Re: gnome-vfs (Havoc Pennington) 13. Re: Increasing Memory Usage (Jeremy Portzer) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 18:45:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: gnome-vfs From: "William Hooper" <whooper@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Reply-To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Jeremy West said: > This question has probably been answered already, but I'm still > clueless. > > Why are there two versions of gnome-vfs installed in redhat 9.0? when I > run an rpm query, this is what I get. > > gnome-vfs-extras-0.2.0-5 > gnome-vfs2-2.2.2-4 > gnome-vfs-1.0.5-13 > gnome-vfs2-devel-2.2.2-4 > gnome-vfs-devel-1.0.5-13 > gnome-vfs2-extras-0.99.10-1 > > Is this normal??? > > Thanks > > Jeremy West This is very common when multiple versions are needed for some reason. For example: libgnomeprint22-2.2.1.1-3 libgnomeprint-1.116.0-6 openssl-0.9.7a-2 openssl096-0.9.6-15 openssl096b-0.9.6b-3 glib-1.2.10-10 glib2-2.2.1-1 libpng-1.2.2-16 libpng10-1.0.13-8 -- William Hooper --__--__-- Message: 2 Subject: Loging into a Windows Share with Nautilus From: "Bruce P. Morin" <bpmorin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Organization: SafePoint E-Technology Group, LLc. Date: 11 May 2003 19:39:31 -0400 Reply-To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx --=-Tk7zfMykuD1y9Thw8zjO Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Everyone, Love the new "Network Server" feature and I was looking for a little feedback to see if something is possible. Currently I a have a WindowsXP box connected to a Samba Domain. The XP box has an external hard drive that is shared throughout the company. The Windows users don't have to log into the box to access the drive because the domain controller handles the permissions. Now my RedHat 9 users can access the share through the "Network Server" feature or through Nautilus but they have to input a user name and password every time. I was wondering if there was a better way to this. I know that with FTP you can input a user name and password in the URL but I tried this with SMB and it still required that I log in. Am I missing something? --=20 Bruce P. Morin <bpmorin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> SafePoint E-Technology Group, LLc. --=-Tk7zfMykuD1y9Thw8zjO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+vt8yFBMnIwGspVgRAt9KAKCbVCNwueBBeroDeyiGcTjhQqEFCgCeNBz1 xNCXU/RzNlo5BnbabnxhhUk= =+a1h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Tk7zfMykuD1y9Thw8zjO-- --__--__-- Message: 3 Subject: Re: Pick one: blender From: Tino Meinen <a.t.meinen@xxxxxxxxx> To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Organization: Date: 11 May 2003 16:20:15 +0200 Reply-To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Op zo 11-05-2003, om 15:02 schreef Robert P. J. Day: > On 11 May 2003, Tino Meinen wrote: > > > > There are RH9 rpm's for blender (and loads of other apps) available to > > > install for anyone who feels like it. > > > Do I understand correctly that you opt for a minimalistic distribution > > where people can choose to install the applications they want later on? > > i think that's a good philosophy. red hat should not be responsible > for satisfying every user's desire for their favorite tool. No, obviously they can't do that, they have to choose a largest common factor. > > also, i might be wrong, but if red hat bundles an app with their > distro, then they become responsible for Q/A for that app, for > accepting bug reports for it via bugzilla, and so on. I actually don't know how far the responsibility of a distributor goes. But I don't understand your meaning with this argument? A distributor should adhere to a minimalistic philosofy because they become responsible for the applications they ship? As an aside, Blender actually has great quality, and has few bugs. Certainly less bugs than some other applications currently shipped with Red Hat 9. Blender has been around for quite a few years and during this time has seen some thourough testing and use in production environments. > > at some point, RH can reasonably be expected to draw the line. Well the fairy asked to pick one from the current distro which had to go in order to get this one in. Blender is also quite small (well, comparitavely) about 3,5 Mb. Compare that for instance to the Gimp which weighs in more than 8 Mb. > (theoretically, i would think that, in the extreme, any distro > should fit on a single DVD, no?) Perhaps. Some DVDs can be played on both sides:-) --Tino Meinen --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 13:16:51 -0400 From: "Oliver Schulze L." <oliver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: rpm rebuilddb error Reply-To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Thanks for the info, because I got this error on a new PC and in RH9 stock version. Oliver Emmanuel Seyman wrote: >On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 08:50:22AM +1000, Kevin Waterson wrote: > > >>I removed the files, but the error persists >> >> > >It's a harmless error. > >Emmanuel > > > > > -- Oliver Schulze L. <oliver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 09:18:06 -0400 From: Cliff Kent <cliff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Pick one: blender Reply-To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx >> There are RH9 rpm's for blender << Really? The current Blender version is 2.26. I found Mandrake RPM's only. What have I missed? Cliff Kent --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Markku Kolkka <markku.kolkka@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Increasing Memory Usage Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:20:02 +0300 Reply-To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Viestissä Maanantai 12. Toukokuuta 2003 04:14, Jeff Grossman kirjoitti: > I never knew about the "free" command. But, I still don't understand > how the system can start only using about 100M and now it is using > almost all of the built in memory. And starting to use swap space. > > total used free shared buffers > cached > Mem: 513852 488336 25516 0 137064 > 227048 > -/+ buffers/cache: 124224 389628 ^^^^^^ It's still using about 120M for applications. The rest is used by the OS as buffers and cache. Idle applications get swapped out so that the memory can be put to better use by active programs. -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka@xxxxxxxxxxxx --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 16:18:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Rigoberto de la Cruz <rigodcx@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Sendmail and squirrelmail To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Reply-To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >Also, what postmaster? > > > usually postmaster mail goes to root. > > and root mail should go to some mail account > where it will actually be read instead of sitting > in /var/spool/mail/root - how can I forward root's mail to another user? Is it something in sendmail? thanks, Rigo __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Avner BenHanoch" <avner@xxxxxxxxx> To: <shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: RH 9 Errors Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 10:21:16 +0200 Reply-To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C317A7.0E2997D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable try "man ld", or other ld documentation. under tcsh you should set the variable with "setenv LD_ASSUME_KERNEL = 2.4.19"=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Browder=20 To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx=20 Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 7:30 PM Subject: RH 9 Errors Two questions about new behavior under RH 9: 1. Where can I find documentation about the environment variable LD_ASSUME_KERNEL? I have found it necessary to set it to '2.4.19' in = order to run some old C programs. 2. What gnome desktop and init level 5 startup command could be = causing the following errors when logging in as a tcsh user and then attempting to = run a tcsh script: in the file '.xsession-errors': then: no then/endif Option given which is no longer supported in this version of gnome- = =20 Terminal; you might want to create a profile with the desired = setting, and use the new --window-with-profile option. at the command prompt: then: no then/endif I have tried deleting all gnome desktop directories and resource files = I could find, but obviously I haven't found the correct one. I haven't tried a fresh install, and I would like to avoid it if = possible. All RH 9 errata have been applied (including glibc). Thanks. Tom Browder --=20 Shrike-list mailing list Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C317A7.0E2997D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.3315.2870" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>try "man ld", or other ld=20 documentation.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>under tcsh you should set the variable = with "setenv=20 LD_ASSUME_KERNEL 2.4.19" </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A href=3D"mailto:tom3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; = title=3Dtom3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Tom=20 Browder</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx"=20 title=3Dshrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx>shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 08, 2003 = 7:30=20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RH 9 Errors</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Two questions about new behavior under RH 9:<BR><BR>1. = Where=20 can I find documentation about the environment = variable<BR>LD_ASSUME_KERNEL? I=20 have found it necessary to set it to '2.4.19' in order<BR>to run some = old C=20 programs.<BR><BR>2. What gnome desktop and init level 5 startup = command could=20 be causing the<BR>following errors when logging in as a tcsh user and = then=20 attempting to run a<BR>tcsh script:<BR><BR>in the file=20 '.xsession-errors':<BR><BR> then: no then/endif<BR> Option = given=20 which is no longer supported in this version of = gnome- =20 <BR> Terminal; you might want to create a profile with the = desired=20 setting,<BR> and use the new --window-with-profile = option.<BR><BR>at the=20 command prompt:<BR><BR> then: no then/endif<BR><BR>I have tried = deleting=20 all gnome desktop directories and resource files I<BR>could find, but=20 obviously I haven't found the correct one.<BR><BR>I haven't tried a = fresh=20 install, and I would like to avoid it if possible.<BR><BR>All RH 9 = errata have=20 been applied (including glibc).<BR><BR>Thanks.<BR><BR><BR>Tom=20 Browder<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>Shrike-list mailing list<BR><A=20 = href=3D"mailto:Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx";>Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx</A><BR><A=20 = href=3D"https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list";>https://= listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list</A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BOD= Y></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C317A7.0E2997D0-- --__--__-- Message: 9 Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 01:40:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Sendmail and squirrelmail From: "Jarod C. Wilson" <jcw@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Reply-To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx On Sunday, May 11, 2003, at 14:19 US/Pacific, shrike-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Seems the OP has his problem resolved. Yeah, I noticed later messages just after sending. Too hasty on the reply, new messages hadn't downloaded yet. :) > One comment, though. Wouldn't it be easier to enable imap via: > > # chkconfig imap on D'oh! Yes, that would be much easier. I think I get crossed up a bit. You can't 'service imap start', but you can 'chkconfig imap on'. (Kind of an annoying thing with xinetd, but hey). -- Jarod C. Wilson, RHCE <jcw@xxxxxxxxxxxx> "A wise man once said nothing at all." --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 13:33:40 +0800 From: Ed.Greshko@xxxxxxxxxxx To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Realplayer 9 / RealOne (was - Re: Realplayer 8) Reply-To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx On Sun, 11 May 2003, Elton Woo wrote: > On May 11, 2003 09:25 am, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I could not find a link for 9 on Linux....do you have the link? > > Here: http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/ > ... and ... > Here: http://hubi.oj.pl/linux/programy/RealPlayer/ Actually....(thanks to Michael Pang) the "better, more official" place to go seems to be... http://realforum.real.com/cgi-bin/unixplayer/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=announce ments&Number=2908&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5 This page has download instructions. Got it from there....works great. Ed -- SARS - The only virus not spread by Outlook http://www.shorewall.net/ for all your firewall needs --__--__-- Message: 11 To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx From: Harry Putnam <hgp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Sendmail and squirrelmail Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 22:05:41 -0700 Organization: Still searching... Reply-To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Rigoberto de la Cruz <rigodcx@xxxxxxxxx> writes: >> Oh don't worry - sendmail as shipped by redhat >> will not allow any mail relaying whatsoever, >> except for localhost, end of story. >> >> That's a wise initial configuration for newbies. >> >> Those who want to relay mail, will know how to >> adjust the sendmail config... >> >> Joe > > Joe, thanks for the help! It's good to know that it > wont relay any mail. It seems everything is working > now... Rigoberto... Judging from your other comments in post: Message-ID: <20030510220529.3053.qmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Quoted below: [...] > > to this: > > dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, > > Name=MTA') > > > > That keeps sendmail from only listening to the > > loopback IF. > I already had that.. but would this let others telnet > to port 25? If what you mean by `I already had that' is: dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1 Then sendmail IS NOT prevented from listing on port 25. The `dnl' is like a comment (##) in sendmail.mc so having dnl in front DEACTIVATES. The Default as shipped is DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')dnl which DOES prevent sendmail from listening to anything but 127.0.0.1 (loop back) --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 00:51:14 -0400 From: Havoc Pennington <hp@xxxxxxxxxx> To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: gnome-vfs Reply-To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx On Sun, May 11, 2003 at 04:15:51PM -0600, Jeremy West wrote: > This question has probably been answered already, but I'm still > clueless. > > Why are there two versions of gnome-vfs installed in redhat 9.0? when I > run an rpm query, this is what I get. > > gnome-vfs-extras-0.2.0-5 > gnome-vfs2-2.2.2-4 > gnome-vfs-1.0.5-13 > gnome-vfs2-devel-2.2.2-4 > gnome-vfs-devel-1.0.5-13 > gnome-vfs2-extras-0.99.10-1 > > Is this normal??? > Yes, one is the GNOME 2 version and the other is the GNOME 1 version. See http://ometer.com/parallel.html - this is why you can still compile GNOME 1 apps such as Evolution while the desktop is GNOME 2. Havoc --__--__-- Message: 13 Subject: Re: Increasing Memory Usage From: Jeremy Portzer <jeremyp@xxxxxxxxx> To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: Jeff Grossman <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 12 May 2003 09:22:53 -0400 Reply-To: shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx --=-uGTcaLm+vuvDTk9nfYpg Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2003-05-11 at 21:14, Jeff Grossman wrote: > I never knew about the "free" command. But, I still don't understand > how the system can start only using about 100M and now it is using > almost all of the built in memory. And starting to use swap space. >=20 > total used free shared buffers > cached > Mem: 513852 488336 25516 0 137064 > 227048 > -/+ buffers/cache: 124224 389628 > Swap: 650552 6708 643844 >=20 >=20 To simplify what Roberto said, you're looking at the wrong line in the output of "free." You should read the line marked "-/+ buffers/cache".=20 This shows that 124 MB of RAM is being used by your programs, and 389 MB is available if the programs need it. The extra RAM being used for cache will speed up your system overall and is NOT a problem -- it's a big feature of the Linux kernel! Also, the small amount of swap being used is not anything to be worried about. The only time you're "really" using swap is when that "free" column in the -/+ buffers/cache line becomes zero (or very small). Hope this helps, Jeremy Portzer --=20 /=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D\ | Jeremy Portzer jeremyp@xxxxxxxxx trilug.org/~jeremy | | GPG Fingerprint: 712D 77C7 AB2D 2130 989F E135 6F9F F7BC CC1A 7B92 | \=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D/ --=-uGTcaLm+vuvDTk9nfYpg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+v6Atb5/3vMwae5IRArEJAJ9tTEQjt3eJn9FX/Jzku646NuzbBwCcDzUt FBPSheOa8sExq5lriSi/qlg= =Ue62 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-uGTcaLm+vuvDTk9nfYpg-- --__--__-- -- Shrike-list mailing list Shrike-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/shrike-list End of Shrike-list Digest
