Rather than wasting space I decided to combine 4 things into one. I apologize if this is a problem. A. I installed 18-9 with up2date and it booted. I couldn't figure out how to get rid of 13-9 but I deleted it from grub without removing it from where-ever it is on the box. Now 18-9 brings up error 15 on boot "file not found". The other two OS's on the box boot fine. B. I get a "cannot stat /dev/cdrom no such file or directory" (fstab) C. How do I restore the red hat icon on the panel? D. What is the proceedure for manually doing updates say for Valhalla Again I apologize if a one at a time submission would be better. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com