Re: RH9 Printer Sharing Problem

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One of the reasons I switched from RH9 back to RH8.0 was the printer
sharing.  I have oodles of printers on oodles of systems, and I've tried
CUPS sharing, Samba sharing, different printer drivers and connections,
and bunches of other stuff.  I didn't post anything on bugzilla 'cause
at the time I was having several other problems and forgot about it
until now.  Plus, I really couldn't find any reason to the rhyme except
that it worked in Psyche and not in Shrike.  There have been a number of
package updates since my last attempt, but the symptoms you're
describing are the same as what I got, so if you have stayed up2date,
then I would guess a fix to this probably rare problem hasn't been
implemented.

RH9 also gave me a problem on my HP LaserJet 4.  After a few minutes,
the printer would report some error (I think it was an I/O error, but I
can't remember).

I'm curious, what kind of system are you running?  The only similarity
among all the systems here which didn't print is that they use Athlon
chips and Jetway (VIA chipset) motherboards.

One system had an Athlon T-Bird 1.2, ATI AIW 128, Jetway 692(?)
mommybored, Turtle Beach Tropez+, and stock Shrike install.  The
printers used on that system were HP LaserJet 4 and HP DeskJet 842c. 
Other systems here didn't share any of a good supply of printers, but
those two are the ones I tried first on each system.  Other systems used
a few Athlon XP 1700+ chips on Jetway J867 boards, and one had a 1.0
TBird (which doesn't like RH 9 at all).  Sometimes I did "Everything"
installs, sometimes I did the default installation, and sometimes I
simply added everything (without clicking "Everything").

By the way, when I used RH8.0 to print, it just worked, with CUPS or
lpd..or both.

I assume Red Hat would not be upset with me mentioning J.A.M.D., since
it's really just Red Hat 9 with a few modifications, as opposed to a lot
of other RH-based distros who try to reinvent the whole OS a piece at a
time.  I figure that those who want to know about J.A.M.D. will still
buy RHCE classses.  :-)  (Seems like a good argument for profitable GPL
software.)  As a Linux junkie, I made my way down the list at
DistroWatch and arrived at J.A.M.D.  I tried it on my own system, and it
didn't get into X.  It didn't even timeout, so I couldn't diagnose the
problem.  (I think it was an attempt to install nVidia drivers.)  I
figured it was because the OS was still an infant at version 0.0.6, but
every other system I tried it on was surprisingly happy.  J.A.M.D. is
not really a server distribution, but one thing I like about it is that
if you have something you want to install from RH9, you just run the RPM
from the RH9 CD and everything works.  J.A.M.D. is a small distro at
only 1 CD.  (Wow, by that reasoning, Windows XP is a small distro.) 
Anyway, J.A.M.D. comes with the same version of Samba that Shrike comes
with and I think the same CUPS.  In fact, versionwise everything seems
to be about the same.  However, printer sharing worked, my Belkin USB
dongle didn't crash the network configuration tools, Kopete worked
right, and programs even started faster.  The point is that it's
probably something inside RH9, at least when it comes to my own printer
sharing problem.  It seems to me that the solution must be some simple
undocumented package conflict.  Is there any chance that it's Shrike's
NPTL backport?  I'm really quite ignorant on NPTL, but isn't it a patch
to the 2.4.20 cleverly made to work?  In other words, is it really part
of the stock 2.4.20 kernel?  Could it have something to do with all the
bugs I've experienced or even with the old Athlon chips not working
right?

By the way, since mailman likes to misplace my messages, won't turn off
digests, and sometimes sends digests when they're obsolete, I'm gonna
quit hanging around.  It's getting hard to follow, and I'm sure it's
frustrating to see new top-level messages with "Re:" at the beginning. 
I hope mailman soon gets replaced with a bulletin board, something
UBB-like.  Vector's BB is pretty good.  I understand they had a
catastrophic data loss on their previous BB, so I don't know what they
were using before, but now they're using phpBB.  One thing I like about
it is the semi-transparent email-notices about messages posted.  If you
stop clicking the link in the email, they stop sending them to you.  I
understand some people are email-only, but I don't see why mailman can't
be expanded a little with a web-based email interface built in.

See ya.  I can still be reached at benjaminvanderjagt@xxxxxxxxxxxx (one
final plug, visit my SourceForge project DLIP!  The specs are up to
version 0.03.  http://sourceforge.net/projects/dlip or
http://dlip.sourceforge.net/ for details.  You can still find me
(vanderjagt) on the Vector and J.A.M.D. BBs.




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