I beg to differ... For keeping track of some basic things like appointments, addresses and phone numbers, and other things that require quick and easy calculations, I find PDAs to be extremely useful. I often refer to mine as my 2nd brain I carry around in my pocket. I currently have a Palm Tungsten T, which I use with the Palm hard case. The size is definitely small enough to fit in my pants or jacket pocket and the quick access buttons are simple to use. The display is clear and crisp. I use my PDA daily and derive quite a bit of value from it. I also use it for weight and balance calculations when I fly and even Bible study in church. I'm an associate pastor and keep several translations, all cross referenced and searchable, on it. Although I admit it looks kind of weird bing in the pulpit. When the other associates pull out these big books, I get out my Tungsten T. But the other Palm users in church and I seem to understand each other. <smile> The downsides for me with the Tungsten T: 1) Red Hat 9 refuses to sync with it 2) Red Hat 9 refuses to sync with it 3) ...and (you guessed it) The problem appears to be that the sync software just doesn't proerly ID the Tungsten T yet. My old Palm M515 syncs perfectly. Things I have tried in the past to correct the problem just don't seem to work. But overall the Tungsten is a really nice device for sure! Cheers, Chris On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 22:14, Robert L Cochran wrote: > My suggestion is, don't bother with getting a PDA. Why not? > > 3 biggest limitations: > > *Too expensive to purchase > *Monthly wireless access fees are exploitatory -- way too high > *Device too small to use easily > > Other telling problems: > > *Extremely difficult to input data > *Extremely difficult to migrate and sync data from a desktop > *Fonts are too small to read easily in poor conditions > *Device is easily lost > *If device is lost, personal data security is quickly compromised > *Devices are poorly built -- can't survive being dropped, extremes of > heat and cold, sweaty bodies, being jarred > *Not much PDA -- very little memory, you can't load a different OS > easily or upgrade the innards > > My old Palm VIIx, once my pride and joy, is unused for the above > reasons. > > Bob > > > On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 20:47, Price Technology wrote: > > It looks like I'm going to have to break down and purchase a PDA of some sort. > > My little black book is getting full of writer's cramp. > > > > I'd like recommendations from folks who are actually using them, including any > > hoops they had to jump through to make them work, features that still don't > > work, little annoyances, etc. > > > > Shrike support is main concern as I'm sure they'll play well in winders. > > > > Input from the crowd please. > > > > Joebewan -- ==================================== "If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' someone else's dog around." --Cowboy Wisdom