LOL Guess I'm guilty too Lacy, I didn't read enough ;) I do retract my previous statement about queuing the mail.. My bad.. --Mike ------------------------------- Knock, knock, anyone home? I think it is specifically stated in the email that he IS using his ISP. He SPECIFICALLY states: >any mail I send from my cable/Internet provider Rogers >*@rogers.com) is denied by any *@redhat.com And you state: > Your workaround is to use your ISP's mail server. You go on to state: > You have a supported mechanism for directing your outbound mail through > your ISP's mail servers. Use that, and you won't have these sorts of > issues. Note also that Red Hat is not the only company doing this - > they're not the first and certainly won't be the last. I don't want to go off on a rant here, but actually reading the email sent to the list may help keep the signal to noise ratio down. At least read the email first before you chastise the guy. I'll be surprised if my email goes through as well. I know that Mandrake has me blocked from sending mail to their lists. Obviously, they couldn't take the heat. When you release a product that does not work out of the box, knowing that it doesn't work because the incident in their Bug database still lists it as being open, you should expect complaints. Instead, they expect the user community to fix it, but they still want our money. I will say that I've never heard Red Hat complain that their users are not fixing the bugs, and therefore, they should expect problems. Red Hat has a few employees called programmers on their payroll. I think that's a neat idea for a software development company. Mandrake just doesn't get it. Lacy Moore
