Hi, > Since Nvidia only makes the chips, can someone recommend a manufacturer of > Nvidia based boards? We are looking for something comparable to the ATI > 9700 Pro both in features and in price (128M Ram / $300-$400 US) I'm using an MSI G4Ti4200-TD8X card (http://www.msicomputer.com/product/vga/vga_detail.asp?model=G4Ti4200-TD8X) based on the Nvidia Ti4200 AGP8x. You can get those for $100-$150 US I think. Less power than a 9700Pro though, but MSI also sells GeforceFX 5800 cards (http://www.msicomputer.com/product/vga/vga_detail.asp?model=FX5800_Ultra-TD ). The only bad things I heard about them is that they make a LOT of noise (fan) when running 3D applications, and they use two expansion slots because of the big cooler. The Leadtek card (http://www.leadtek.nl/nts/nl/products/gc/content.php?subject=WinFast%20A300 %20Ultra%20TD%20MyVivo) is a lot better in that aspect. Though it has two fans it is said to be a lot quieter. It takes up only one slot, and it has a realy nice alluminium casing :) Bye! Sander.