I now have Shrike working so that I can burn CD's without any coasters, or without any "BBC chipmunks", I can view MPG and AVI files, and listen to / view realaudio/ realvideo content. ONE more peeve: I can't shutdown from within the desktop and (_oftentimes_) I can't logout either (unless I do a CTRL-ALT-BKSP) then select Reboot or Shutdown from the GMC. I have the latest updates from RHN up2date. Did I miss something? Elton 9</ -- http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_4504.html "You only live once, so let's make life EASIER for each other." LINUX Registered User #193975. AMD-K7 ATHLON CPU power on board.