I have a stock RH 8.0 install. It's running on an old Dell 400Mhz system that has a generic MX440 Nvidia card installed (card is made by FORSA). Only a few weeks ago I did a complete fresh install because I was experiencing stability problems which I was unable to track down. After the install everything appeared stable. Within a week I added the NVIDIA 4191 binary drivers. I used rpmbuild to create both the kernel and GLX rpm's. Once again I started experiencing stability problems. The system would freeze overnight (usually just after 4.00am). Running up2date would result in several bad file descriptor messages. I would periodically have the system crash due to a kernel oops. Checking the system logs showed that there were several errors relating to the video. Mainly these were centered around not being able to free up video pages. I tried various things but the errors always occurred if I left gnome running over night. Sitting at the command line didn't cause any problems. Removing the NVIDIA drivers also eliminated the problems but it was sure slow! A week ago I installed the older 3123 Nvidia drivers. I haven't seen any sign of problems since that. I've tried all the things that caused earlier problems...nothing. The system just keeps running smoothly. I also see log messages regularly stating that video pages are being both allocated and released. BTW, this system can be booted into Win98. Using the Nvidia 4119 drivers under Win98 also caused lockups but I had expected such things from Win98. Moral of the story...be careful with Nvidia binary drivers particularly 4119. Gerry -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list