I am not actually sure where to begin this question: I hate to say "How do I get telnet working with RH8.0" but I guess when push comes to shove, that is the question. Right now, I have telnet installed. I can start the daemons. I have two machines on an LAN, both running 8.0, and I can ping from one to the other and from the other to the one. I have my firewall set properly to allow them to talk to each other (or at least I think I do). But when I do a "telnet main" it says connection refused. I can "ping main" and all is fine, so I know the Ethernet connection is working. What am I doing wrong? (He asked, in a whining tone.) Gosh, it is sure nice to be working with Unix again after all these years of Windows! Or at least I think it is. I feel like Alice, in "Alice in Wonderland," who had to keep running just to stay in place! :-) And I remember when Linus first posted the message regarding Linux and was chewed out by Andy Tannenbaum! My, how time do fly, and how things do change. John -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list