(1) I dislike default world-read access to any files so I set umask appropriately in /etc/bashrc. (2) Fiddle around with ppp config or anything else that rewrites /etc/hosts. (3) Next time you login with Gnome, it complains that it cannot look up your host name, etc. This is only to be expected because the changed umask value prevents world-read access. Lesson: Don't fiddle around with the umask value in /etc/bashrc, unless you are prepared to chmod system files to workable values. Best to modify umask per user. Question: If I'm logged on as an non-root user and then run a system config GUI that asks for the root password, do I get the equivalent of "su -" or just "su"? -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list