Re: Intel P4 3.06 GHz - hyperthread

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On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 00:18, David Scriven wrote:
> Chris Kloiber wrote:
> 
> > I haven't seen a non-Xeon with HyperThreading
> > enabled yet. In theory it should work just fine
> 
> > as it's nearly identical to the P4 Xeon. 
> 
> Have you seen a Xeon with hyperthreading enabled?

Yep, my workstation (Compaq W8000) has two P4 Xeon's at 2.4 Ghz each.

> >From my reading it would seem that hyperthreading
> is only supported in the 2.5.35 kernel and above

Horse-pucky. Those kernels have some enhanced logic in them for
HyperThreading, but I know Red Hat Linux 7.2 and up support it. (7.1
also with errata kernels) 

> (Maybe I've got that wrong, if so please let
> me know). I thought that the Xeon used the SMP
> kernel for multiprocessors while hyperthreading
> requires SMT support. (I'm dangerously out of my
> depth here folks - about to drown in acronyms!)

Summit support? Only for NUMA architecture machines like the IBM x440.
Just for giggles, here's the top of top. Naturally this box is not in
production, it's here for testing and is currently idle. It has 8
physical processors and 16 Gigs of ram.

   3:24am  up 4 days, 12:20,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
65 processes: 64 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU0 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
CPU1 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
CPU2 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
CPU3 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
CPU4 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
CPU5 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
CPU6 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
CPU7 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
CPU8 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
CPU9 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
CPU10 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
CPU11 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
CPU12 states:  0.0% user,  0.2% system,  0.0% nice, 99.3% idle
CPU13 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
CPU14 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
CPU15 states:  0.0% user,  0.0% system,  0.0% nice, 100.0% idle
Mem:18547348K av, 1708772K used, 16838576K free, 208K shrd, 115448K buff
Swap:2040212K av,       0K used,  2040212K free          1160684K cached

> If I'm right and hyperthreading does require a
> later kernel than the current 2.4.18 variant how
> likely is it that Red Hat would introduce such a
> kernel in the near future (ie. 6 months or so).

Red Hat Advanced Server 2.1 (errata kernel 2.4.9-e.10 currently)
includes a summit capable kernel now. More work is being done to make
the summit patches work with non-summit machines, so it is in the works,
no eta.



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