Still looking for someone that can give me a clue on this...sorry about the second post. I'm having trouble connecting to either printer in the office...The first is an HP LaserJet IIISi (very old network card) and a Toshiba Copier. Both have TCP/IP support and have ip addresses on the subnet but it seems that I can't use LPR to print to either. Neither support Windows/SMB printing I have also tried to connect using LPR to AppleShare 6.3 print server but the HP just gets the page, flashes a bit and then resets back to ready mode. Apparently AppleShare 6.3 doesn't make the printers available as an Windows printer and the NIC on the IIISi apparently doesn't support HPJetAdmin type connections either - because of it's ancient roots. If you have networked laserprinters that don't apparently support LPR, is there a way to print to them through the network? Craig -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list