Perhaps I should clarify. Yes I do realize that the kernel is a collaborative effort of the Linus Kernel group. And that is what makes it so damn cool in the first place. A truly open and stable software platform that has no secrets, no twisted cost driven licensing schemes, and hence no anti-trust lawsuits. At first I thought the idea of not loading drivers because there is no source available was being a bit harsh to hardware vendors. But now I do agree 100% with Linus after going through the frustration of having to deal with this issue. >>>>> Justin, I have a quibble with your statement there. You are making an improper assumption. It is the kernel Red Hat uses for their distribution. It is not strictly speaking their kernel. It is a collaborative effort of the entire Linus Kernel group. And to be honest they have rather noticed the lack of Promise support that floats around. There's not much they can do about it legally. (I suspect this is one of the reasons Linus wants to have the kernel block all foreign modules such as nvidia video card drivers and Promise drivers for which source is never released.) -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list