Re: iptables -P INPUT REJECT

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On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, David Durst wrote:

>>>But then again you may want to think twice about using a DEFAULT DROP
>>> firewall, DEFAULT DROP uses alot of resources for packets you might
>>> just be able to ignore.
>>
>> That is false.
>>
>> DROP means "drop this packet on the floor and do not process it",  which
>> is the least resource using of the bunch.
>>
>>>I you would like to understand more drop a line to me.
>>
>> LOL
>
>
>Mike, I would rather not respond to any of your posts but I think in
>this case I am forced to. BTW - LOLs at typos are not needed.

You're never forced to do anything.  You make your own concious 
decisions on what you choose to respond or not to respond to.

I wasn't laughing at your typo, and in fact did not even notice 
it until just now when trying to find a typo in what you said.  I 
think everyone else realizes what the LOL was about though.


>Mike by the very nature of what you stated about DROP it does
>have to DOOOOO something, yes it has to drop it - but then again
>why DROP a packet or even bother with inserting a rule if the
>packet won't do anything in the first place.
>
>I think the policy of just IGNORE packets that do nothing is the
>best.

No offense intended, but you don't particularly come off as
really knowing anything about iptables or Linux firewalling to be
honest.  People have attempted to correct your mistaken 
understanding of how things work, however you seem quite sure of 
yourself and not too willing to listen to the useful and correct 
advice and comments that others are supplying.

I'm inclined to believe that you will believe whatever you want 
to believe and no manner of attempting to help you understand 
what you're saying is wrong will change that.  In other words, 
you've convinced yourself what is right, and wont listen to 
anyone else.  You're free to do so of course, as it doesn't 
really affect anyone else.  But it doesn't help you much either.

It's not particularly useful to argue or debate such things 
though, as people who do know how it works, already know and any 
part they play in the discussion is merely to try to help others 
to understand.  They stand little to gain by arguing with someone 
who does not understand, but thinks they do.  And people who 
think they know something and refuse to listen to people trying 
to straighten out their misunderstanding, aren't going to 
convince anyone who does know.

It's basically conversational deadlock, and a waste of both 
party's time.

Those who are out there reading both sides, and are not sure what 
to believe, should join the netfilter mailing list, or discuss 
the topics with various people considered true experts in the 
specific area.  They'll likely be more than happy to explain 
firewall concepts to a beginner, or even someone who has been 
working with things for a while but isn't an expert in the area.

The netfilter mailing lists are ultimately where to ask these 
types of things and get good proper answers.


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Mike A. Harris     ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris
OS Systems Engineer - XFree86 maintainer - Red Hat



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