RE: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh

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Actually, I just successfully ftpd as root and fetched /etc/shadow with
sftp.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Zygmont [mailto:jzygmont@solarflow.dyndns.org]
> Sent: Tue, November 26, 2002 7:26 PM
> To: Randy Kelsoe
> Cc: psyche-list@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing who is logged in through ftp and ssh
> 
> 
> If you have root jailed users by configuring the ftpaccess 
> file, but have 
> ssh installed, all they have to do is sftp in and go wherever 
> they want.  
> It's a relief to know that at least they can't grab the 
> shadow file too. 
> 
> I just found a quck way to disable this however, in the 
> /etc/ssh/sshd_config comment out the line: 
> Subsystem  sftp  /usr/libexec/openssh....
> 
>  
> On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Randy Kelsoe wrote:
> 
> > Ed Wilts wrote:
> > 
> > >In many cases, ftp is *more* secure than sftp.  With ftp, 
> you have a lot
> > >of control over who can do what through the ftpaccess file 
> (in wu-ftpd).
> > >With sftp, it's a free-for-all.
> > >
> > >In very practical terms, the odds of anybody being able to sniff
> > >passwords these days is very slim.  The odds of somebody 
> grabbing your
> > >passwd file if they've got sftp access to your system are 
> much larger.
> > >
> > Maybe we could discuss this off-list. I don't see how sftp is a 
> > 'free-for-all',  unless it is configured to bypass the user 
> login and 
> > password.
> > Default RedHat installation requires a username  and a 
> password for sftp 
> > connections. A normal user could grab my passwd file, but 
> not the shadow 
> > passwd file, so I don't see how that would do them much good.
> > 
> > I am not a security expert, nor a cracker/hacker. I would 
> like to learn 
> > more, so if you have some time, please email me privately 
> and elaborate.
> > 
> > rk
> > 
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