What you just state can in no other way be described but "That SUCKS!" Ok I get the point, I was not aware that they charged for each distributed copy. Hmmm ponders a install/download wizard for java :) Ok, is there anyway that the RH partnership w/ IBM could be leveraged to achieve the desired??? It is sad at the analogy you just described. Is that really the relationship between IBM, SUN and Linux right now??? That would be suprising consider the implications of the the SUN/JAVA - MS settlement. It just seems to me that there has to be a way to achieve this software dist.. But then again software giants are stupid w/ working w/ Linux so why should I assume that they would want to get their software out there. > On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 19:33, David Durst wrote: >> I am not sure why you say 1/2 closed, and 2nd THERE IS MARKET DEMAND. >> Has anyone looked at the major deployments of LINUX and why it is >> being used its mostly in JAVA. >> >> And Tomcat, Jboss, apache are all open sourced just not GPLed. >> >> You can LEGALLY distribute the the JRE and J2SDK. > > Not without a distribution license, no. Only SUN and IBM can. That's why > you have to download them. > >> For the most part you just don't get it. >> You are so afraid the EULA that it ruins the OSes possiblities. >> >> Who CARES about the EULA of JAVA, IT DOESNT COST A DAMN THING! > > Oh yes it does... If you aren't SUN or IBM, you pay for every copy you > sell on media (or download, or share... have you lost count yet?) > >> And w/ Netscape 7, it doesnt have to be there but make it so when you >> have Flash (It install the plugin correctly into Mozilla). > > I'm not sure why automatic plugin search is currently disabled, but you > can install most plugins for Netscape 7 in Mozilla, just search for it > at Netscape's website. > >> See this is what you don't get - let me give you an analogy to explain >> it a bit better. >> >> The state of Linux now is "Here is a car w/ a manual figure it out" >> >> Heres what I am asking for: >> "Here is a car w/ a manual, here is the body kit, rims, spolier and CD >> Player you can put in the car - side note you DON'T HAVE TO PUT THEM >> ON" > > Let me give you another analogy. If we shipped everything you wanted it > would be more like... > > "Put your hands up on the hood where we can see them! Your body kit, > rims, spoiler, and CD player were reported stolen from stores all over > town. Let's see who you are, I'll just check this wallet. Full? Not > anymore! Empty now! Wonder how that happened? Hehehe. You are under > arrest. You have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and > will be used against you in a court of law, You have a right to an > attorney (he gets everything left in your bank account)..." > > -- > Chris Kloiber > > > > -- > Psyche-list mailing list > Psyche-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list
