It is more than the "masses." We have over 850 users on-line here in our company and the re-training costs shifting to a linux desktop are very large. In this way, RedHat *is* moving in the right direction by trying to give us a desktop which will require minimal re-training for companies like ours. Redhat 8.0 is a glimmer (maybe more than a glimmer) of what a "Windows" killer might be, but it isn't there, yet. We have a business to run, and we want our technology to support the operation of the business, do it securely, and to be as *invisible* as possible. Currently, like it or not, Windows is still a good choice, but it is getting too expensive and too resource hungry especially in the time it takes to manage the desktops. But if RedHat continues to provide focus and resources to the desktop Windows is in big trouble over the long run. Charles Johnson Manager, IS Applications Phone: 463-6527 Fax: 463-6503 Help Desk: 463-6516 Remember the heroes of UAL Flight 93 >>> johgn@omsig.net Wednesday, November 20, 2002 5:57:33 PM >>> On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 17:57, Keith Winston wrote: [...edited for brevity...] Linux is better, but the masses want ease of use, and they want their proprietary formats and their DVDs. Red Hat Linux in its current form is not for them. -- John -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list -- Psyche-list mailing list Psyche-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list