On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Thomas Dodd wrote: >> I hope everyone is using the new XFree86 CVS RPM's I made for Red >> Hat Linux 8.0, and is enjoying the new translucent mouse cursors >> with drop shadows. ;o) > >Did you announce them on the list? >I was browsing the people.redhat.com directories >and found them. > >Haven't had time to install them yet, >hope to tonight/over the weekend. Never announced them anywhere but IRC. I wanted just a few guinea pigs first to test for any major breakage. So far things are working quite well with the following caveats: 1) Nvidia binary only drivers are for XFree86 4.2.0. This isn't XFree86 4.2.0, so they wont work. Not an XFree86 bug, not an Nvidia bug, not a Red Hat bug, not a bug. It is a case of plugging a square peg into a round hole - it doesn't work. It wont work until Nvidia makes XFree86 4.3.0 compatible modules available, which wont happen until after 4.3.0 is released, which wont happen until late December if not later. In short, don't expect to use XFree86 CVS or 4.3.0 with Nvidia binary only modules any time soon, and don't report bugs about them, they'll be closed as dupes of bug number 73733. 2) Every new XFree86 release requires new DRM kernel modules. The kernel module code required is part of the XFree86 source code, and when I feel like it, I audit it and pass it to Arjan who audit's it also, along with probably a few other kernel hackers. Eventually it makes it into our kernel, and eventually into Rawhide. The estimated time for this to occur is WheneverWeGetAroundToIt(TM). In short - you have to compile the DRM modules yourself for now, or disable DRI, or feel free to try with DRI enabled - it *might* work anyway for some hardware, but it isn't guaranteed nor expected to work. As another note, no you can't use Linus's kernel DRM modules, they're for XFree86 4.1.0. Other than those two issues, most other things are very minor so far. Either that, or not enough people have been testing it out and reporting bugs. As an additional note to those interested in the CVS packages: No, I will not tell people "what is new since 4.2.0" or "what major new features are there". If you really want to know, then read the XFree86 CHANGELOG. It is available in the source code tree (use the find command), and also via the google search engine. Also read the changelog in my RPM packages. These packages are intended for people whom are willing to just blindly beta test them, knowing they are not production ready and contain bugs and problems of which the goal is for them to find and report them. The packages are explicitly not intended for people who don't know how to read RPM changelogs or surf the web to find the XFree86 changelog. I say this, because 50% of the people who find the packages, ask me these questions. I don't have time nor inclination to answer them. If someone MUST have the answers before trying the packages, then by definition, they're not really a beta tester, so I don't care if they use it or not. They're looking only for what _they_ get, and not for what they can give to me in the form of testing and bug reports. ;o) </lecture off> Anyway, feel free to test the packages, and file ALL bug reports both in our bugzilla, and also to the xpert@xfree86.org mailing list so that other X developers are also aware of all problems found. Enjoy the awesome new mouse cursors, and the resize and rotate (RandR) extension. Oh, rotate doesn't work. The Rand extension. ;o) Did I mention it allows runtime changing of refresh rate too? /me sees another 50 guinea pigs pound on people.redhat.com now -- Mike A. Harris ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris OS Systems Engineer XFree86 maintainer Red Hat Inc. _______________________________________________ xfree86-list mailing list xfree86-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/xfree86-list IRC: #xfree86 on irc.redhat.com